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Old 09-23-2009, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Aloverton
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It seems to me that many talk about how many of the confederates were scottish or of scotch/irish descent.
A lot were. But so were a lot of Union soldiers. However, I think there were more Germans in the Union army by far.
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:07 AM
 
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There were a couple of heavily Irish regiments (meaning "real" Irish, Celtic Catholics, not Presbyterian Germanic Scots from Ulster).....
Oooof.....My father's ancestors are no doubt doubled over in fits of laughter, but I can already hear my mother's spinning in their graves like windmills!
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:56 AM
 
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All these immigrants fighting for the North now I know why the South lost the war. Not that I'm for slavery. I just hate losing period.

Kind of like when you play baseball or football ect. I know this makes me a sore loser.

This war happened many a years ago and I still hear comments of Dam Yankee, Dam Rebel.

I get a big kick out of it because Florida wasn't really in the American Civil war. It affected Florida in the Northern part of Florida. Florida was one of the few southern states saved the ravages of the civil war. However Florida did play a part in the war.

Florida was part of it but slavery was more in Northern Florida vs Southern Florida. Slaves ran from the owner to Florida to be free. We had alot of blacks in Florida but most of them were brought in by the Spanish and were not slaves. Slavery was more in North Florida vs South Florida. Those of them that did own slaves in Florida had very strict rules no whipping of slaves no saleing of family members ect. To become free in Florida all you had to do was get baptised.

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Old 09-23-2009, 09:34 PM
 
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Well North Florida is considered by many to be just southern georgia....i go to st augustine all the time and love it...the general area of a lot of north florida has a very rural/country feel, compared to where as a lot of southern florida is very built up and more urban. And even politically there is a big difference as well...in the end north, and even central florida is quite a bit different then south florida...of course you have jacksonville in the north and some rural areas in the south, but generally speaking there is still a big difference.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Nashua
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There was a blockade in effect for the Southern ports so I don't think there was much immigration to the States in rebellion during the 1861-1865 time frame.
It is interesting though that immigration to the U.S. did continue during the war. Those people must have had a lot of faith in the country. Think for a minuite - would people immigrate to say Bosnia or Serbia during their troubles?
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Old 10-04-2009, 02:54 PM
 
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Florida was one of the few southern states saved the ravages of the civil war.
To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld... There weren't any good targets in Florida!
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:34 AM
 
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Those people must have had a lot of faith in the country.
Well, think about it also.... Regardless of the outcome, the North/Union wasn't going anywhere. So what's the risk in going to New York? You're either part of the United States with southern states included, or without...
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:27 AM
 
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I don't have any statistics but the rosters of both sides were full of immigrants in the civil war, some of their higher ranks used to serve in the military of Europe. The south had it's Irish brigades and German brigades. Irishman Patrick Cleburne was an excellent divisional commander (anglo-Irish actually, for those stuck on details). The north had a whole army corps almost full of German's. Fritz Sigel's corp - most spoke no more english than "we fight mit Sigel". Language was actually a problem in the northern ranks with some of these immigrants. At Malvern Hill the union couldn't stop their own artillery batteries from firing because they all spoke German, they needed a translater first.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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I read some where that there were more scotsman then irishmen that foughts for the confederacy.
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:42 PM
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There was probably some Irish Brigades fighting in the north (New york's 69th regiment?, the Irish were anti-slavery while in Ireland (part of their Anti British sentiment) but once in the states they became anti -abolitionist, they saw the emancipation of the slave a direct competitor and a source of cheap labor. They still fought for the union. when they immigrated here in 1845 after the famine they were afraid to settle too far south for fear that they could be enslaved.
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