9 Instances of Fidel Castro and Cubans Helping Black People Fight Colonialism and White Supremacy

[Cryptic]

Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Cuba has helped many black people/causes within the last 50 to 60 years. They've been on the right side of many conflicts and moral issues...

Cuba also supported the Sandanista government in Nicaragua with military, agricultural, and poltical advisors. Supported by Daniel Ortega, the cuban advisors, however, quickly assumed larger roles in Nicaragua.

But... Cubans often did not understand local Nicaraguan cuture and the economy. The advisors encouraged anti religous measure that in Cuba were part of every day life (catholic schools siezed by the government, restrictions on church construction, limitations on public evangelizing events) were met with alot of resentment in rural Nicaragua.

Likewise, the Cuban advisors ordered the collectivization of almost all Nicaraguan agriculture (technically collectivization was "voluntary", but Cuban inspired regulations made it all but impossible to be an independent farmer)- despite the fact that 80% of farmland consisted of small scale, owner occupied farms. Needless to say, farmers feel very attatched to their land.

A favorite Contra propaganda tool was to replay Cuban accented voices heard on Sandanista radio and to publicize names and nationalitity of Cubans serving in the Nicaraguan government.

[CamaroGuy]

Just how many black Cubans have any significant power in Cuba's government is what I'd like to know.

[TheArchitect]

The communists, neither Cuban nor Russian were not true ideological anti-imperialists. The capitalist west had established empires. As a result, the strategic opportunity available to them with those societies was to appeal to the grievances of the colonized, in hopes that their revolutionaries would embrace the communist ideology in their struggle and hopefully implement it in the event of their victory.

But it was not driven by any sincere ideological or moral objection to colonialism or of respect for indigenous autonomy , as their behavior in Afghanistan and eastern Europe displayed.

[Naz1973]

Its a patadise in cuba...you can always go there. Of course, you wont be with the tourists

[Dd714]

Originally Posted by CamaroGuy

Just how many black Cubans have any significant power in Cuba's government is what I'd like to know.

Few to none.

Although...who really holds political power in Cuba? Cuba is a dictatorship/totalitarian - power for all government decisions is with the Castros (probably all with Fidel's brother now) and a very small inner circle. They have what they call an elected "parliament" of sorts of 600 members, but they are just for show - rubber stamping any decisions from the Castros.
Things will change when the cult of personality that is Castro finally takes his dirt nap, but that's another topic....

[SHABAZZ310]

Originally Posted by Dd714

Few to none.

Although...who really holds political power in Cuba? Cuba is a dictatorship/totalitarian - power for all government decisions is with the Castros (probably all with Fidel's brother now) and a very small inner circle. They have what they call an elected "parliament" of sorts of 600 members, but they are just for show - rubber stamping any decisions from the Castros.
Things will change when the cult of personality that is Castro finally takes his dirt nap, but that's another topic....

Castro's problem is that he got power and refused to pass it along. I haven't seen a government without term limits work as well as one with term limits for their leaders. At least not when everything is as close as possible to equal..

[NJGOAT]

The issue is that any possible help to blacks was merely a side-product, not the goal. All of those instances are couched firmly in geo-politics. Anything to make the USSR happy and/or thumb their noses at the United States. I seriously doubt the Cuban government cared about Assata Shakur (Joanne Chesimard) or her case beyond the fact that she was heavily wanted in the US and there was controversy surrounding her trial and imprisonment.

I think Cuba's own internal records of promoting equality are a far better gauge then what they do to serve their geo-political interests. On that count, they aren't nearly that enlightened.

[lucky2balive]

Originally Posted by NJGOAT

The issue is that any possible help to blacks was merely a side-product, not the goal. All of those instances are couched firmly in geo-politics. Anything to make the USSR happy and/or thumb their noses at the United States. I seriously doubt the Cuban government cared about Assata Shakur (Joanne Chesimard) or her case beyond the fact that she was heavily wanted in the US and there was controversy surrounding her trial and imprisonment.

I think Cuba's own internal records of promoting equality are a far better gauge then what they do to serve their geo-political interests. On that count, they aren't nearly that enlightened.

this
cuba is helping communism...against capitalism
and whatever the color/race of the players happens to be is immaterial...

[mwruckman]

Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Castro's problem is that he got power and refused to pass it along. I haven't seen a government without term limits work as well as one with term limits for their leaders. At least not when everything is as close as possible to equal..

Castro's idea of term limits was the life expectancy of El Maximo Leader! Castro finally had step down in 2006 for very understandable health reasons. Raul who is not much younger than his brother Fidel has pledged to step down in 2018 when the torch will be passed to a new generation of leaders who have no memory of Battista or pre-revolutionary Cuba.

[Ummagumma]

Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Cuba has helped many black people/causes within the last 50 to 60 years. They've been on the right side of many conflicts and moral issues. Just like many of the African leaders that defeated colonialism and led their new countries into the next phase and didn't step aside when the time was right, Cuba's leadership did the same. Cuba had a moral authority that no European country ever had that they allowed to whiter away with time. Hopefully the normalizing of our relationship will usher in positive change...

1. Cuba Supported the Angolan War of Independence

Actually they didn't get involved until after Angolan indepencence.


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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Cuba Prevented South African Apartheid Regime From Taking Over Angola

Cuba supported Marxist totalitarian bloodthirsty group MPLA against South African backed totalitarian bloodthirsty UNITA. The South Africans were mainly trying to stop the destabilizing problem that Angola posed. The Cubans were trying to fuel that problem. Neither side has a moral high ground.



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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Cuba Provided Assistance in ANC’s Fight Against Apartheid

And look just how great it worked for Zimbabwe. An average black Zimbabwean is in significantly worse situation economically, politically, and from the standpoint of personal security now than they were in the 70s. And the apartheid was replaced by tribal warfare and discrimination which is far more brutal and rampant. Quite a proud victory that was. Again, the destabilizing effort.



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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

4. Cuba Provided Amnesty to Assata Shakur

A member of domestic terrorist group. Not any better than some Aryan Nation figure. Again, this was not to fight injustice, but to destabilize the situation in the US.



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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Castro Supported Black American Business

Subversive activities to destabilize the US in the global US-USSR confrontation.



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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Cuba Backed Venezuela Against U.S. Sanctions

Which worked wonders for Venezuela's prosperity. We also did a fare share of similar subversive / destabilizing tactics, to be fair.



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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Cuba Offers Free Medical School to Blacks

So they are openly favoring one race over others ? I assume you mean American Blacks ? Yet another example of subversive activities.



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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Cuba Sent Troops to Fight Against U.S. Invasion of Grenada

US had a valid reason to not allow another Communist country in it's backyard at the height of Cold War. Cuba wasn't really helping Grenada as much as trying to hurt the US.



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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Cuban Medical Internationalism Provides Medical Personnel to the Developing World

Good for them, although the US contributes far more to that cause. Heck, Bill Gates - a private indiv idual - contributes more to fight 3rd world diseases than Cuba. But they do a good thing. Although with country starving, they really should've spend this money and effort on helping the Cubans first.

Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

9 Instances of Fidel Castro and Cubans Helping Black People Fight Colonialism and White Supremacy - Atlanta Blackstar

Yes, 9 Instances of Fidel Castro ('cause Cubans have no say in what they are being told to do) engaging in subversive activities against the US. Not that we don't do this.

And the waves of boats filled with refugees coming from Cuba is a great proof of just how wonderful of a place it is. Surely something everyone must praise and emulate.