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Old 03-18-2010, 03:04 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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This is more of a vent thread than anything but thoughts and comments are certainly welcome.

We got on the subject of deviance last night in sociology class and how it can take many forms. Some that is good, some that is bad and some that can bring change in the world. Well, this guy in our class which you can tell is lazy to begin with, has enough balls to raise his hand during the discussion and tell us how he got in school.

He begins telling us he didn't have any money, he didn't have a job and his mom also didn't have any money. So he decided to get a job, stay with it long enough to draw unemployment and then did something to get laid off so he wouldn't have to work and go to school at the same time. He didn't say what he did. So now he receives financial aid and unemployment and has no intentions of finding a job until his unemployment runs out.

I was so close to opening my mouth and telling him what a big pos he was but I figured It would just get me in some heat which I don't need.
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Old 03-18-2010, 03:12 PM
 
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After reading this I am finding myself becoming ill.
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Old 03-18-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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Can you call UI? UI only allows people to collect if they are actively looking for a job. And they only allow people to go to school under certain conditions.
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Old 03-18-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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This is more of a vent thread than anything but thoughts and comments are certainly welcome.

We got on the subject of deviance last night in sociology class and how it can take many forms. Some that is good, some that is bad and some that can bring change in the world. Well, this guy in our class which you can tell is lazy to begin with, has enough balls to raise his hand during the discussion and tell us how he got in school.

He begins telling us he didn't have any money, he didn't have a job and his mom also didn't have any money. So he decided to get a job, stay with it long enough to draw unemployment and then did something to get laid off so he wouldn't have to work and go to school at the same time. He didn't say what he did. So now he receives financial aid and unemployment and has no intentions of finding a job until his unemployment runs out.

I was so close to opening my mouth and telling him what a big pos he was but I figured It would just get me in some heat which I don't need.
My wifes ex got fired and his unemployment was exactly the same as his pay after paying child support. So he has been not paying support for over a year.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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All systems can be scammed. These are just little people doing the scamming. They are no different form the plutocracy scamming the government out of billions to provide bonuses for the millionaire managers that created the mess except the unemployed are taking a lot less money.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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There are lots of different kinds of people in the world, and they aren't all rolling the same round rock up the hill that you are.

Scamming the system is a full-time job. It takes time, effort and work. That work is just as productive as being a telemarketer, and requires similar skills. Why do you think it is so evil and disgusting and reprehensible to scam the system, but praiseworthy and meritorious and virtuous to scam customers on behalf of a millionaire? At least the person described in the OP is not phoning me at supper time.

I used to work in media advertising. I know something about scamming.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:40 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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There are lots of different kinds of people in the world, and they aren't all rolling the same round rock up the hill that you are.

Scamming the system is a full-time job. It takes time, effort and work. That work is just as productive as being a telemarketer, and requires similar skills. Why do you think it is so evil and disgusting and reprehensible to scam the system, but praiseworthy and meritorious and virtuous to scam customers on behalf of a millionaire? At least the person described in the OP is not phoning me at supper time.

I used to work in media advertising. I know something about scamming.
Geez... If you actually WORKED and PAID TAXES, instead of living off other people's taxes, you'd understand.
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Old 03-19-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Geez... If you actually WORKED and PAID TAXES, instead of living off other people's taxes, you'd understand.
After 70 years of not working a day in my life and not paying a single penny in taxes, it's too late to start now.

Please, just once, see if you can contribute anything to a discussion. Cut and paste something written by somebody else, if you are completely incapable of coming up with anything on your own, but please, just once, see if you can express a thought that has any relevance to the topic. By the way, the rolleyes emoticon (the last resort of the cutesy moron) does not qualify as an expression of thoughtful opinion relevant to the topic. You are embarrassing all the rest of us, who think this is a serious debate forum.

And buy a new "Book of Insults". You're steady litany of the same old ones is getting tiresome.

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Old 03-19-2010, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Hernando, FL
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Sounds to me like he may be dabbling in the grey area of fraud, but not enough info. Hey, he doesn't make the rules , he's just playing by them. If he gets an education and goes on to get a good job he'll be paying his taxes.

Guys like him don't bother me near as much as the revolving door criminals who drain our system costing tax dollars for police to catch them, public defenders to defend them and 3 hots and a cot + medical care to house them.
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Old 03-19-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I like the part where people justify the existence of parasites like these by saying that 'in the end, everyone is just scamming everyone else, blah blah blah blah, millionaires, blah blah blah blah.'

It's a bunch of cr*p, and y'all know it.

Most successful people work hard to get where they are and they pay their taxes and play within the rules. Pointing out a couple of skeevy CEOs is both irrelevant to this discussion and not representative of the population.
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