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Old 12-04-2009, 12:42 PM
 
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Whether the engagement ring must be returned is actually a legal question. Some states consider it an unconditional gift, some states consider it conditional on the recipient going through with the marriage, and even some of those states consider who is at fault in deciding what should happen to the ring.

If you are in this situation you should figure out what the law is in your state.
this is right on - some jurisdictions would have it as a gift upon condition (the condition of marriage)

once married though for most guys getting the ring back would be the least of their concerns going through a divorce proceeding ... the focus is usually not what can I get, but what can I avoid losing
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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I agree under normal circumstances.
However under my circumstances I don't agree. I would of never worn it again true. I don't care that man was being rude. Insulting if you ask me.

Why would a man beg you to marry him then give you money to get a ring not picking it out himself. Then insult you with the ring?

Unless he was listening to gossip/lies from someone else whom wanted you insulted.

Anybody else would of let it go for awhile and then just be friends then move on but he was insistent why, I say gossip/lies.
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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Why would a man beg you to marry him then give you money to get a ring not picking it out himself. Then insult you with the ring?

Unless he was listening to gossip/lies from someone else whom wanted you insulted.

Anybody else would of let it go for awhile and then just be friends then move on but he was insistent why, I say gossip/lies.
Well, this post makes it quite clear that this thread is misplaced and belongs in the Relationships forum.

Quoting your own post, ignoring statements from a legal/logical standpoint, and continuing a defensive, immature tirade illustrate how your intention of this thread was insincere for the purposes of DEBATE.
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:27 PM
 
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The man offers to pay for my grandmother funeral to which I said no it was already taken care of. He had the money to pay for a funeral but not a simple ring. He lied then insulted me. Even with me saying no no no he kept right on bugging me and bugging me.

I never once asked the ring back that I bought by the way which was cheaper I have to agree. I spend every penny I had in the bank left for his ring. I was sitting on broke and he didn't offer and I didn't ask. I bought his ring out of my own budget to which I never got back and never once regretted not asking for it back.

I could careless what should happen to him to be honest with ya.

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Old 12-04-2009, 01:32 PM
 
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The man offers to pay for my grandmother funeral to which I said no it was already taken care of. He had the money to pay for a funeral but not a simple ring. He lied then insulted me. Even with me saying no no no he kept right on bugging me and bugging me.

I never once asked for my ring back by the way which was cheaper I have to agree. I spend every penny I had in the bank left for his ring. I was sitting on broke and he didn't offer and I didn't ask.


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Should a person give a ring back if an engagement or a wedding doesn't happen or a divorce happens?
You posed the question.

People have responded.

I'm assuming you are upset that the responses aren't sympathetic to YOU and don't justify YOUR actions.

Again, this is very telling that you are not interested in a DEBATE. You want justification.

Very different things.
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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You and leavingGA. Amazing. Same MO.
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Well, this post makes it quite clear that this thread is misplaced and belongs in the Relationships forum.

Quoting your own post, ignoring statements from a legal/logical standpoint, and continuing a defensive, immature tirade illustrate how your intention of this thread was insincere for the purposes of DEBATE.
No it belongs here.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:26 PM
 
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This thread isn't a debate. It's a trainwreck.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:57 PM
 
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No it's a legit question.

Now if I had ask for that ring back what do you think he would said or done. He would of tried to dish me once again. right

Besides I got more satisfaction out of letting him keep it in the long run.

He wanted the ring he got it. I never asked nor was it offered.
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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No it's a legit question.

Now if I had ask for that ring back what do you think he would said or done. He would of tried to dish me once again. right

Besides I got more satisfaction out of letting him keep it in the long run.

He wanted the ring he got it. I never asked nor was it offered.
When your posts continue to bring the subject back to your personal situation, rather than the original question (which was of a general nature), then your intent was not, in fact, to debate an issue.

This is utterly pathetic.
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