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ANYTHING you DO NOT EARN, is welfare...whether it's cash, or stamps, or whatever....if it comes from someone else who does NOT GIVE IT WILLINGLY......if someone gives it willingly, it's charity or a gift.......
I don't understand you, of course it's welfare. Any money that is handed out for which the government does not get a good or service in return is welfare.
From the dictionary "a : aid in the form of money or necessities for those in need b : an agency or program through which such aid is distributed"
Why do you not consider it welfare if it is in a program called "Social Security" or if it benefits working people? That makes no sense. It's still a handout. It's still welfare. Sure it may be a type of welfare that you approve of, but that doesn't make it not welfare. It's still redistribution of income, handing out money to someone who needs it without getting a good or service in return.
I'm concerned about where you are getting your information, it is very very propaganda heavy. You are reciting stances that don't make sense with reality. If I were you, I would really start trying to learn how to take things people/media tells you with a grain of salt, and go do research to find proof. Really think through things yourself, and don't take what people tell you at face value. Sometimes people can be very gullible without realizing it, and other people can take advantage of them, and hurt them. There are lots of con men out there, and many of them look and feel legit until it is too late. Someone is feeding you lines and lies. Do your homework, don't fall for it.
Yes having reliable sources is invaluable, that's all true, AND your own sources (the government) are not exactly the most honest and transparent, so I'd have to ask if you truly believe the government's unemployment stats, or the myriad of poor statistical info with regard to the costs our venturing in the Middle east. Or the lack of good statisical info on just how much those corporate tax breaks really add up to. One thing's for sure, welfare, in it's entirety gives more to those with money than those without. BS stats from our illustrious DC leadership is one thing, but the most damaging stuff actually is coming from the likes of the conservative Cato Institute.
The worst of debating comes from the utilization of the minutiae of statistical trivia that seeks to redefine the terms as they are commonly used in debate. "Welfare" is aid, period. And the citizenry is sick of the whining by those who make this a lesser nation by robbing us and then pointing fingers at the truly needy when the public is in a foul and stingy mood, "it's them" they cry, "those who don't work, those who don't contribute, yes, it must be them because we in the upper class are true patriots and have the nation's best interest at heart". People fall for BS all the time, having a good nose helps, but in all seriousness, who has the money? The answer to that will also tell you who has the power, and common sense should tell you that power can get the most from government, not those with no political voice.
Yes having reliable sources is invaluable, that's all true, AND your own sources (the government) are not exactly the most honest and transparent, so I'd have to ask if you truly believe the government's unemployment stats, or the myriad of poor statistical info with regard to the costs our venturing in the Middle east. Or the lack of good statisical info on just how much those corporate tax breaks really add up to. One thing's for sure, welfare, in it's entirety gives more to those with money than those without. BS stats from our illustrious DC leadership is one thing, but the most damaging stuff actually is coming from the likes of the conservative Cato Institute.
The worst of debating comes from the utilization of the minutiae of statistical trivia that seeks to redefine the terms as they are commonly used in debate. "Welfare" is aid, period. And the citizenry is sick of the whining by those who make this a lesser nation by robbing us and then pointing fingers at the truly needy when the public is in a foul and stingy mood, "it's them" they cry, "those who don't work, those who don't contribute, yes, it must be them because we in the upper class are true patriots and have the nation's best interest at heart". People fall for BS all the time, having a good nose helps, but in all seriousness, who has the money? The answer to that will also tell you who has the power, and common sense should tell you that power can get the most from government, not those with no political voice.
Which is why the poor should favor extremely limited and sparse government with almost no role in the economy. If the government has no economic power, then it doesn't pay for the cronies to try to buy the politicians.
But most poor people are idiots who want even bigger government, more handouts, less freedom, and more tyranny over those they are envious of.
THAT'S WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA. AND THAT'S WHO WILL VOTE FOR THE VAPID BIDDY WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE OVARIES TO LEAVE HER CHARACTERLESS POWER LUSTING BIMBO HUMPER HUSBAND.
I would be for a program for this. $20,000 seems to much though I think $12,000 a year is more feasible that is $1000 a month and would be much more affordable.
Which is why the poor should favor extremely limited and sparse government with almost no role in the economy. If the government has no economic power, then it doesn't pay for the cronies to try to buy the politicians.
But most poor people are idiots who want even bigger government, more handouts, less freedom, and more tyranny over those they are envious of.
THAT'S WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA. AND THAT'S WHO WILL VOTE FOR THE VAPID BIDDY WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE OVARIES TO LEAVE HER CHARACTERLESS POWER LUSTING BIMBO HUMPER HUSBAND.
Yeah less government so people like you can cut all welfare, keep min wage low and have people being homeless or living in shacks like they do in third world countries.
Which is why the poor should favor extremely limited and sparse government with almost no role in the economy. If the government has no economic power, then it doesn't pay for the cronies to try to buy the politicians.
But most poor people are idiots who want even bigger government, more handouts, less freedom, and more tyranny over those they are envious of.
THAT'S WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA. AND THAT'S WHO WILL VOTE FOR THE VAPID BIDDY WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE OVARIES TO LEAVE HER CHARACTERLESS POWER LUSTING BIMBO HUMPER HUSBAND.
Wishing for smaller government is one of the mantras of those who have failed to see the rising tide of power behind the government. Thinking that the White house is the seat of power and the director of government policies simply demonstrates a tremendous lacking in understanding just how real power is working behind the clown faces in American politics. It's been a grandiose corporate puppet show from the beginning and that will continue without any change regardless of which of the two faithful parties are sitting in DC. Witness the Donald in earlier press reports gushing over his "admiration" for the Clinton's.
Welfare for the rich is exactly why we need welfare for the poor. It's an epiphany for some that this is how the real re-distribution is happening on both sides of the welfare equation. Color those welfare dollars for the poor and see where they end up, our largest retailer is but one of the recipients of those dollars, the rest goes to gasoline, landlords, and a sundry of other merchants who have learned to love welfare for the fact that they too are on a form of government aid. The poor don't eat those dollars they spend them!! All welfare is corporate in the sense that the majority of those dollars end up in corporate tills.
Most of the poor aren't idiots, but they have been systematically displaced in an economic sense, marginalized to the sidelines and then utilized in the roundabout hand off of government dollars to the likes of Walmart and others. The standing army of the poor are now simply a conduit for those welfare dollars to be spent into the American economy. Acting as though that one conduit (social welfare) is responsible for the heavy tax burden payed out by the middle class is total nonsense, but then again this little scheme has it's radio talking heads to shout this theory until the rest of those conduits are out of sight and mind.
A ton of the merchant class is also on welfare. Add to those "dollars to the poor" the ton of "help" we give the rich and you can see the real picture forming of how our re-distributive economics works. The military is another conduit for more large scale redistribution of our tax dollars, in fact, looking at the federal budget one needn't look too long or hard before seeing the relationship between taxes and the loop of dollars collected, budgeted, distributed, and then spent in our ever growing tax dollar dependent economy. You won't find any support for your smaller government on Wall street, or the boardrooms of our largest corporations, or among the chiefs of staff at the Pentagon, they're all on welfare!!
So, you don't like this setup, you have lots of company, but, that crowd is being systematically separated along political lines (the real job of politicians) in order for it to carry on uninterrupted by any force of democracy. Republican and Democrat chumps fight over their notions of leadership, the real power is laughing all the way to the bank. Yes the rich are getting their fair share of American spoils, they hardly need anymore cheer leading teary eyed supporters bowing down to them as the "creators" of jobs and all that is good, we, the people, are the real "good" in America and it past time to let them know just how clearly we do see. Now let the elections begin...
ANYTHING you DO NOT EARN, is welfare...whether it's cash, or stamps, or whatever....if it comes from someone else who does NOT GIVE IT WILLINGLY......if someone gives it willingly, it's charity or a gift.......
ANYTHING that comes from tax dollars is welfare.
Lloyd Blankfein and Hank Paulson would beg to differ, they have said many times that the old women down the block is on welfare, but Goldman Sachs is "just tryin to help America". Yes anything that comes from government is welfare, and that includes the TARP robbery and other schemes to enhance the bottom line at the multitude of businesses on American welfare.
I didn't read any of the prior responses but ending handouts to women based on the number of children they produce would be a great place to start!
Like 1 child and that's it. Anything else, you starve and yes, your family dies in the street and gets picked over by ravens and buzzards. Pregnancy is a choice. All we are doing by funding multiple kids to single moms is producing the next graduating class of criminals, shooters, stabbers, jackers, hustlers, drunks, and druggies.
I see a lot of lazy good-for-nothings in that country's future.
It'll definitely promote laziness. It would also create a shortage of people willing to work minimum wage jobs. But it might just get dd, her dh and their kids out of my house. $20k per adult is $40k per couple.
However, I'm thinking that $20k/adult is WAY MORE than we currently pay out in benefits and wondering where the money will come from. Realistically, anyone making less than $20k will stop working. Anyone making just over $20k will likely stop working. I really don't see this working. Employers will have to pay more than $20k per year for jobs that traditionally have paid less just to get workers so prices will go up as well.
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$20k per adult is $40k per couple.
