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In the past national social movements usually came out of N.Y., LA or San Fran. What I am talking about is movements like the hippie movememt, punk rock, etc. Usually a movemnet would start in Ny. or LA and creep across the country. Like the punk rock movement started in NY and by the time it was rolling good in Minneapolis it had already died in NY. A lot of movemnets pop up and die quickly. So when I lived in Pittsburgh they prided themselves in being in the movements that stayed because by the time the staying movements got to Pittsburgh they were the real thing. So I am wondering if NY and LA are still at the forefront of social movements. I know that by the time the brotherly element in the hippie movement was going full swing in some midwestern towns it was long a thing of the past out east and west. It was always an advantage to live east or west to be in on the new thing that was happening. Maybe there are other places in the game of being first now. But I get the feeling that maybe our society is too fractured for things to catch on with whole groups and generations. Thats just a guess though. It is like music in that there was a time when a certain kind of music had a national following amongst certain segments of society. But now it seems that there are so many different kinds of music out there that its mind bogglingh. I think of disco being in in the 80s and it seemed everyone was into it. Anyway that is just an example of what I am trying to say.
I tried to change the title so it made more sense but could't because I guess you can't do that when editing
Hmmm....well I don't know if this is what you mean but the whole organic/going green movement seems to have started possibly in California, Portland, etc. Out west. Although it may seem like it's the trendy thing to do now, I think it's great that more people are aware of the environment & the implications our actions have on it.
Socail movemnets now days last about as long as one hits wanders in the 60's.When econmic times become hard the even become less paid attentio to really.
One thing that comes to mind is that in the heyday of bi-coastal trendsetting the Internet didn't exist. So, while we still have major population centers that are responsible for creating the majority of mass media/fashion/entertainment, the Net has I believe contributed greatly to the rapid decentralization of those trends.
If a gal in Podunk wants to see (and purchase) the latest styles, zip-zip on the Net and she's golden. Then she can wear her outfit in her city and start her own trend.
I've read where the National Socialist movement in this country was hurting for members until the Net came along; easy access to ideas, techniques and comrades. No longer do you have to live in the major hotspots.
The flash mobs (a trend) in London and elsewhere are using the power of the Net to coordinate and execute their gatherings. An event like this, with such precise timing among so many people, couldn't have easily happened before Al Gore.
One thing that comes to mind is that in the heyday of bi-coastal trendsetting the Internet didn't exist. So, while we still have major population centers that are responsible for creating the majority of mass media/fashion/entertainment, the Net has I believe contributed greatly to the rapid decentralization of those trends.
If a gal in Podunk wants to see (and purchase) the latest styles, zip-zip on the Net and she's golden. Then she can wear her outfit in her city and start her own trend.
I've read where the National Socialist movement in this country was hurting for members until the Net came along; easy access to ideas, techniques and comrades. No longer do you have to live in the major hotspots.
The flash mobs (a trend) in London and elsewhere are using the power of the Net to coordinate and execute their gatherings. An event like this, with such precise timing among so many people, couldn't have easily happened before Al Gore.
I just cannot call the violence of these mobs "flash mobs". Because originally, flash mobs are those cool dance sequences that pop up in train stations or like the one at Oprah's final season opener w/Black-Eyed Peas. There were literally thousands that went in on that one. Now that is a flash mob.
I just cannot call the violence of these mobs "flash mobs". Because originally, flash mobs are those cool dance sequences that pop up in train stations or like the one at Oprah's final season opener w/Black-Eyed Peas. There were literally thousands that went in on that one. Now that is a flash mob.
I agree totally, and personally I never would have called that rioting horde a "flash mob", but I've seen several news reports now that are calling it that.
I've succumbed to the common media influence, I suppose, but as I just mentioned in another thread here perhaps the use of technology (cell phones, Net) in this affair gave it some ties to the original flash mobs.
To me, until this event, a flash mob was a bunch of random people suddenly jumping into the street and doing "Thriller".
I never thought of movements as starting in NY or LA. Maybe that is just where they got the most coverage because that is where the media and entertainment industries are.
You can answer your own question by listing all the recent movements and tracing their origin. Where did the T.E.A. Party start?
Gun control is definitely pushed out of the urban cores on the coasts. The local governments have been unwilling to deal with the core problem so they've tried to pass the buck to a national solution....which dies a quick death in the flyover states.
I guess we can consider this a (permanently) stalled ongoing movement.
Hmmm....well I don't know if this is what you mean but the whole organic/going green movement seems to have started possibly in California, Portland, etc. Out west. Although it may seem like it's the trendy thing to do now, I think it's great that more people are aware of the environment & the implications our actions have on it.
My family was growing veggies and selling farm fresh eggs in the 70's here in the USA. (Both the 1870's and 1970's lol)
Basically, the organic\healthy eating movement is merely catching on in the urban cores as a trendy new fad where it's been in small town USA since Lewis and Clark traveled around these parts.
Even much of the green movement was embraced in small town USA first (IMO) in that these are poorer areas and saving money is critical etc. It was more typically referred to as common sense though.
Frankly, I think some movements start elsewhere earlier and then are "discovered" when they just happen to hit an urban enough area that then get's it in the news and it becomes trendy.
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but as I just mentioned in another thread here perhaps the use of technology (cell phones, Net) in this affair gave it some ties to the original flash mobs.
