Gov. Deal vetoes campus-carry bill (Savannah: appointed, school, living in)

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Source: Nathan Deal to veto Georgia’s ‘campus carry’ legislation | Political Insider blog

I think this will go back to the drawing board next legislative session. One possible change might be allowing individual campuses to make their own determination as whether to allow campus carry, as opposed to forcing all campuses to allow it as the current bill would have done.

[SavannahLife]

he is on a roll doing the Right Thing. He isn't running again so he doesn't have to do what lobbyists tell him. Good for him, good for Georgia. I support the 2nd amendment. But with classrooms it's a crowded area of teenagers (i.e. hungover or still drunk, operating on zero sleep, all of the above) in a possibly stressful environment i.e. finals. Not the most likely place gun safety will be assured. The odds of accidental discharge must outweigh the odds of a school shooting in which a gun might, not will but might, be of a help for self defense. Right?

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Originally Posted by SavannahLife

he is on a roll doing the Right Thing. He isn't running again so he doesn't have to do what lobbyists tell him. Good for him, good for Georgia. I support the 2nd amendment. But with classrooms it's a crowded area of teenagers (i.e. hungover or still drunk, operating on zero sleep, all of the above) in a possibly stressful environment i.e. finals. Not the most likely place gun safety will be assured. The odds of accidental discharge must outweigh the odds of a school shooting in which a gun might, not will but might, be of a help for self defense. Right?

Yeah. People have the right to self-defense, but they also have the right to live in safety.

[Patriot777]

Liberal America at work

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Originally Posted by Patriot777

Liberal America at work

This Liberal American is pro-gun ownership. I don't really understand those who think a responsible person can't own a weapon and use it responsibly. My body, my gun. The Govt should keep its hands off both of them.

[Patriot777]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

This Liberal American is pro-gun ownership. I don't really understand those who think a responsible person can't own a weapon and use it responsibly. My body, my gun. The Govt should keep its hands off both of them.

Exactly.

[bUU]

This wouldn't have been an issue if gun ownership was allowed to do a better job policing itself. The unfortunate reality is that there's no effective way for it to do so. Duly appointed and regularly audited authorities would have to regularly psychoanalyze every gun owner to do that, and that would be a gross invasion of privacy and permitting that would be a grievous overreach by government. The challenge is how to keep the second amendment relevant to society as society gets more and more crowded, with people with guns living much closer to each other, and more and more on top of each other, and interacting with each other in larger and larger groups. IIRC there are over 35,000 students at UGA, and over 10,000 employees, and while the campus is over 700 acres, most of those folks are concentrated in a much smaller area. The same is the case with grocery stores: Where a grocery store used to be one or two employees serving two or three customers at a time, we now have supermarkets with literally hundreds of people shopping and working within this one space. Shopping malls didn't exist before the 1930s, and now they've effectively replaced America's Main Streets. That's a bigger change than just a roof overhead. It is a switch from an area where patrons arrived pretty much where they were going and left from there, to an area specifically designed such that patrons are corralled within them, contained (and thereby hopefully retained, for the purpose of keeping people shopping longer).

In a nutshell, changes in society have caused the problems that we're facing today. We don't want to throw away these changes and go back to living in relative isolation from each other (and there are far too many of us now to do that, even if we did want to do it). So we have to change the way these aspects of society work in recognition of the changes in society that we cannot reverse.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by Patriot777

Liberal America at work

Better than a lot of the alternatives.