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Old 11-15-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Do the tests tell you how much Neanderthal is in your ancestry?
23andMe.com does, FTDNA and Ancestry.com do not. I have an estimate 2.8% Neanderthal, which is average for Europeans.

 
Old 11-15-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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The classification of white itself is inaccurate. One might do well to read up on books like "The Invention of the White Race" to find out the sordid truth behind such a designation.

That being said, all blacks aren't the same either. So when people say stupid things like "blacks sold their own people into slavery", that might be as dumb as saying that whites burned their own people during the holocaust!
 
Old 11-15-2015, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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I always hear this phrase. 21st century DNA technology can tell the difference between the British and the Irish, it can tell you the difference between European descendants. The Spanish and Protgueses are brothers and sisters, so are the French and Germans, but they are all different from Italians and Russians.

When people say "white people" this is removing your European ethnicity to just a broad generalization. The Irish and the Spaniards are not white people, they are Irish and Spaniards. The same goes for any Europeans.

When you are not 100% European, they say your are multi ethnic, but being a mixture of European DNA, such as Russian Italian is multi ethnic too since you're not 100% of either.

Memo: Spaniards are "white people." The reference is to the white race, not ethnicity.

What a pity it is that this bothers you.
 
Old 11-15-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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I always hear this phrase. 21st century DNA technology can tell the difference between the British and the Irish, it can tell you the difference between European descendants. The Spanish and Protgueses are brothers and sisters, so are the French and Germans, but they are all different from Italians and Russians.

When people say "white people" this is removing your European ethnicity to just a broad generalization. The Irish and the Spaniards are not white people, they are Irish and Spaniards. The same goes for any Europeans.

When you are not 100% European, they say your are multi ethnic, but being a mixture of European DNA, such as Russian Italian is multi ethnic too since you're not 100% of either.
Asians would laugh at you if you tell them this
 
Old 11-15-2015, 08:17 PM
 
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When the first Africans arrived in Virginia in 1619, there were no “white” people there. Nor, according to colonial records, would there be for another sixty years. In this seminal two-volume work, The Invention of the White Race, Theodore W. Allen tells the story of how America’s ruling classes created the category of the “white race” as a means of social control. Since that early invention, white privileges have enforced the myth of racial superiority, and that fact has been central to maintaining ruling-class domination over ordinary working people of all colors throughout American history.
 
Old 11-15-2015, 09:04 PM
 
Location: United States
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Memo: Spaniards are "white people." The reference is to the white race, not ethnicity.

What a pity it is that this bothers you.
White is the color of snow, a cloud, a white crayon, not the true color of Europeans.
 
Old 11-15-2015, 09:06 PM
 
Location: United States
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When the first Africans arrived in Virginia in 1619, there were no “white” people there. Nor, according to colonial records, would there be for another sixty years. In this seminal two-volume work, The Invention of the White Race, Theodore W. Allen tells the story of how America’s ruling classes created the category of the “white race” as a means of social control. Since that early invention, white privileges have enforced the myth of racial superiority, and that fact has been central to maintaining ruling-class domination over ordinary working people of all colors throughout American history.
Did they invent the term "white people," or "white race"? I hear this all the time, so what color are Asians then? It is like, let me get this straight. Africans are black, and Europeans are white, so then how come nobody uses a color for Asians, Hispanics, and Mexicans?
 
Old 11-15-2015, 09:08 PM
 
Location: United States
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Asians would laugh at you if you tell them this
Why would they laugh?
 
Old 11-15-2015, 09:09 PM
 
Location: United States
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The term "white people" groups folks of European descent together. Just like the term "black people" groups folks of African descent together. My parents are from the Caribbean but since they are American citizens, they identify as black people.

At one point in time, I said, "But Daddy, my skin is brown not black."
Then what color are Asians, and Mexicans, and how come we don't hear about their color?
 
Old 11-15-2015, 09:10 PM
 
Location: United States
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Most white Europeans, let alone Americans, Canadians and white Hispanics, are mixed with all kinds of ethnicities, that the whole premise is silly. White is a race, Irish, German, Polish etc. is an ethnicity/nationality/culture. Every European country has a huge history of migration and ethnic mixing that no one is 100% Italian or 100% French, anyway.
The color coordination thing is completely odd because they only call Africans black, and Europeans white, but don't have a color for Asians, Native Americans can't be called red, and Mexicans are not called a color.
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