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You go to Home Depot with the car you have, not the car you might want or wish to have at a later time.”
lol.
Been there done that with a similar type of car (although a much cheaper one).
Good times.
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Originally Posted by PacoMartin
Individual decisions aside, Ford is not marketing the Maverick as a replacement for a full size pickup.
Marketing or not, there will probably be more than a few people ditch cumbersome full-sizes if a Maverick otherwise gets the job done.
I would almost do it, but ditching a Tundra for a Ford Anything isn't likely to ever happen.
Now if Toyota wants to dust off the blueprints of their 90's stuff and add 5k towing capacity with 4 comfortable seats and 30mpg, I'd be all over that.
I would almost do it, but ditching a Tundra for a Ford Anything isn't likely to ever happen.
Now if Toyota wants to dust off the blueprints of their 90's stuff and add 5k towing capacity with 4 comfortable seats and 30mpg, I'd be all over that.
We don't know what kind of mileage the new Tundra hybrid will get when it is released this spring, but the minimum curb weight of a Tundra is 5,215 lbs, so it is unlikely to be 30 mpg.
A 2022 Toyota Sienna has a curb weight 4,610 to 4,725 lbs and its hybrid engine gets 35 mpg,
A 2022 Toyota Highlander Hybrid has a curb weight 4,330 to 4,595 lbs and it gets 36 mpg.
A 2022 Toyota Tacoma has a curb weight of 3,915 to 4,550 lbs and the hybrid should be developed for the 2024 model year. I would say there is an excellent chance of having a Tacoma with 30 mpg.
lol.
Been there done that with a similar type of car (although a much cheaper one).
Good times.
Marketing or not, there will probably be more than a few people ditch cumbersome full-sizes if a Maverick otherwise gets the job done.
I would almost do it, but ditching a Tundra for a Ford Anything isn't likely to ever happen.
Now if Toyota wants to dust off the blueprints of their 90's stuff and add 5k towing capacity with 4 comfortable seats and 30mpg, I'd be all over that.
I twice ditched a Toyota for a Ford and it was better for me.
Again, the question that you all need to ask yourself before you run out and buy this cheap truck, sedan with a trunk without a lid. Lol how long is that battery and other major components going to last? You get four years into this vehicle with around 80,000 miles and the battery goes out and it cost $7200 to replace it, that’s probably all that truck is going to be worth if you try to sell it at that point. I just don’t see it as a good purchase. Personally, I’d be more inclined to buy it if it just had a four-cylinder with adequate horsepower. Trying to doctor it up as a hybrid. The potential repair versus value down the road it’s just not worth it.
The non hybrid version (Eco Boost) version doesn't have the hybrid battery to replace, and it has an 8 speed automatic rather than the CVT.
A guy with an AWD Eco Boost 4k towing package Maverick posted to the comments of one YouTube video I watched and he wrote he was getting 29 MPG in mixed driving and 34 MPG on the highway.
The non hybrid version (Eco Boost) version doesn't have the hybrid battery to replace, and it has an 8 speed automatic rather than the CVT.
A guy with an AWD Eco Boost 4k towing package Maverick posted to the comments of one YouTube video I watched and he wrote he was getting 29 MPG in mixed driving and 34 MPG on the highway.
It's rated at 22/29, 25 combined for the AWD EcoBoost. I generally don't find it hard to match EPA mileage in most cars, even beat it by a bit. But it involves some mild hypermiling that I generally don't resort to in everyday driving. Dunno, seems bit optomistic but 22/29 is pretty decent. Personally, I'd lean towards the F-150 PowerBoost which gets 24/24 rated. Admittedly there's a rather large price difference between the two. But full-sized pickups don't work well in older urban environs. Been there, done that. It sucked. I'd get something smaller.
Maverick is annoyingly close to what I'm looking for as a potential replacement. Almost but not quite capable enough. A Tacoma would do the trick, good amount cheaper than an F-150 PB as well.
We don't know what kind of mileage the new Tundra hybrid will get when it is released this spring, but the minimum curb weight of a Tundra is 5,215 lbs, so it is unlikely to be 30 mpg.
A 2022 Toyota Sienna has a curb weight 4,610 to 4,725 lbs and its hybrid engine gets 35 mpg,
A 2022 Toyota Highlander Hybrid has a curb weight 4,330 to 4,595 lbs and it gets 36 mpg.
A 2022 Toyota Tacoma has a curb weight of 3,915 to 4,550 lbs and the hybrid should be developed for the 2024 model year. I would say there is an excellent chance of having a Tacoma with 30 mpg.
I forgot to mention the price needs start in the very low 20’s and I’m not concerned about the curb weight of anything other than how it relates to gas mileage.
Our local Toyota dealer has a new Tacoma for 26k, but it’s 2wd and bare-bones. The size could still be smaller as well, and it doesn’t have a towing package which surely adds even more cost.
For 26k, of course without dealer markup, a Maverick can have AWD and the towing package… if I’m not mistaken. The size is also nice. That’s the appeal, but I’d have to talk myself into buying a Ford again.
It is good that Ford is bringing the small truck (sort of) concept back to the market. I hope it’s successful so that others will follow suit.
I forgot to mention the price needs start in the very low 20’s and I’m not concerned about the curb weight of anything other than how it relates to gas mileage.
Our local Toyota dealer has a new Tacoma for 26k, but it’s 2wd and bare-bones. The size could still be smaller as well, and it doesn’t have a towing package which surely adds even more cost.
For 26k, of course without dealer markup, a Maverick can have AWD and the towing package… if I’m not mistaken. The size is also nice. That’s the appeal, but I’d have to talk myself into buying a Ford again. .
Other than the Maverick, I think these are the cheapest AWD that are not manual transmission with hatchback (xcept as noted)
$20,595 2.0L 4 Subaru IMPREZA 5-DOOR
$22,995 2.5L 4 Subaru LEGACY - sedan only
$23,495 2.0L 4 Toyota COROLLA CROSS AWD
$23,595 2.0L 4 Subaru CROSSTREK AWD
$27,135 1.8L 4 Toyota PRIUS AWD
I think if they come up with a Tacoma under $25K to compete with the Maverick for the next generation it will probably be FWD.
Many Subaru fans are hoping that the new Solterra EV will be converted into a Baja style vehicle with a bed.
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