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Tell me about it. Just bought a pair of swim shorts on Amazon. The app usually tells me which size will fit best but
I don't always trust it.
Even with a good sizing chart things don't always add up when you start calculating. Odd ratios sometimes. I think it must be coming from clothing made in Asia where people are smaller.
Just got the shorts in the mail. They should have fit according to the chart but they don't. The cute part is they're free return but to reorder the price went up. Can't win.
I don't care what size they're labeled. Just want a good fit and some predictability.
I don't care what size they're labeled. Just want a good fit and some predictability.
Every brand sizes differently and sometimes inconsistently within their own line.
This year I've had to alter shorts and slacks to take them in at the hip and sometimes further down the leg, depending. The designers assume wider hips on women, but mine are more narrow.
Some knit leggings/slacks I got from Lands End had hips on them that reminded me of jodhpurs. I had to remove at least 2 inches off each side. Otherwise, they look great!
They will have to find a solution to that problem. Since most people now order online without the comfort of trying them first - there are billion of dollars lost in returns, not to mention that most returns now are sold for pennies to discount resale or end on landfills.
The number of returns in U.S. retailers accounted for about $816 billion in lost sales in 2022.
Retailers are going to cover the losses - either by rising prices or lowering quality. Or just simply curbing the returns. Some already started to charge for shipping and restocking, or limit the numbers of returns per customer.
I don't think men's clothes have changed in terms of sizing, so I titled this for women's clothes only.
No secret that over the last couple of decades women's clothing has been morphing when it comes to sizing. What started exclusively in couture and high-end fashion has trickled down to all consumer segments -- that is vanity sizing.
In college, I was a size 10 petite, medium in a T-shirt. Average BMI category for my height. Neither thin nor heavy. Size 8 / 10 equivalent today is like a size 4 or 6, depending on brand. I tried on a pair of jeans yesterday and they were size 4. Not tight anywhere, plenty of room. Wut?
I started laughing when I tried those jeans on because vanity sizing is kind of ridiculous when one has the perspective of traditional measurements and sizing. It certainly increases sales of clothing when women can feel thin based on these morphed sizes. In my head I immediately translated that "4" to the size it would have been before vanity sizing... probably more like a size "8."
BTW, I didn't purchase those jeans since I know they'll go on sale at some point and be 50% or more off the full retail price. I'm still chuckling over the sizing though.
I find it's best to go by actual measurements. As someone who sews (or used to often), measurements are everything.
Last couple of decades? It seems to have been going on since at least the 1950s.
Last couple of decades? It seems to have been going on since at least the 1950s.
My point of view is from the early 1980s and the size I was in college. So, 40 years ago, (4 decades) is my perspective. I saw the sizing change in high-end clothing over the years, but now it's everywhere and it really stood out to me recently.
Tell me about it. Just bought a pair of swim shorts on Amazon. The app usually tells me which size will fit best but
I don't always trust it.
Even with a good sizing chart things don't always add up when you start calculating. Odd ratios sometimes. I think it must be coming from clothing made in Asia where people are smaller.
Just got the shorts in the mail. They should have fit according to the chart but they don't. The cute part is they're free return but to reorder the price went up. Can't win.
I don't care what size they're labeled. Just want a good fit and some predictability.
Most of the time clothing made in Asia fits me much better and I think it's because Asian women are smaller.
The small is really a small and the bottoms don't have an extra yard of "hip".
I do read the comments and look at the pictures customers post about sizing and fit.
Last couple of decades? It seems to have been going on since at least the 1950s.
1950's to today have seen women's waist size grow 6 inches.
There was no 0, 00, or 000 sizing.
https://time.com/3532014/women-clothing-sizes-history/
In 1958, for example, a size 8 corresponded with a bust of 31 inches, a waist of 23.5 inches and a hip girth of 32.5 inches. In ASTM’s 2008 standards, a size 8 had increased by five to six inches in each of those three measurements, becoming the rough equivalent of a size 14 or 16 in 1958
No matter how time I spend working out at the gym, I also have them. In my case, part of the problem is I lost 30 pounds and your skin doesn't bounce back as well when you're "mature".
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