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Old 12-11-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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Lol If that's you admitting that you don't really know what you're talking about, then yeah that's all I need from this discussion.

You are the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, if you don't recognize that "European" is the standard of beauty in the West rather than "African."
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Old 12-11-2019, 01:31 PM
 
Location: United States
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You are the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, if you don't recognize that "European" is the standard of beauty in the West rather than "African."
I'm going to need both of you to be the ones that know how to read.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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At this point I can't even unsnarl who's saying what in this discussion, but there are a number of posts attempting to make a case that the well known preferences extended toward members of minority populations with lighter skin at the expsnse of those with darker skins either doesn't exist, or is something recently made up for political/sales purposes, or exists but isn't relevant. Frankly, when y'all try to make that point, you remind me of nothing so much as a cat trying to bury a turd on a frozen pond. It ain't gonna work.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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Funny how no one mentions the "tall, dark and handsome" stereotype when mentioning "colorism". Lots of hypocrisy going around here.
Rudolph Valentino, an Italian, was the "tall, dark and handsome" heart-throb. Dark hair, yes; but hardly dark-skinned. And the Hollywood parade of tall, dark and handsome dudes after him would never have had to worry about being told to "Use the Colored entrance, please."

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Old 12-11-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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Just add this to the increasing desire to be perfect.
Perfect hair, perfect skin, perfect shape and even perfect genitals (aka barbie vagina)
I like perfect hair.
I like perfect skin.
I like perfect shapes.
I like barbie vaginas.

Just curious: why didn't you add perfect boobs to the list?
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Old 12-11-2019, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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At this point I can't even unsnarl who's saying what in this discussion, but there are a number of posts attempting to make a case that the well known preferences extended toward members of minority populations with lighter skin at the expsnse of those with darker skins either doesn't exist, or is something recently made up for political/sales purposes, or exists but isn't relevant. Frankly, when y'all try to make that point, you remind me of nothing so much as a cat trying to bury a turd on a frozen pond. It ain't gonna work.
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:03 PM
 
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Fortunately for us, Mrs. RationalExpectations and I are both sapiosexual.
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Southern MN
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Who in this thread are arguing that black people are discriminated against because they aren't attractive? Are you Black or other?

I keep getting the feeling that most of the arguing is from Black people who seem to put more emphasis on color of skin than others do. I don't know about anyone else here but I very plainly got the message back in the Civil Rights era that equal rights was the law of the land. When Martin Luther King said we should start judging people by their character, not the color of their skin, I didn't need to hear it twice. Just because it makes so much sense.

This argument is so 1950s when you consider the multitudes of diversity we see everywhere in media these days. No one would stand for it if we thought our actors, singers, models, athletes were ugly people being foisted upon us. We are of many flavors and there is beauty to be found in each. Just not for everyone in the world. Demanding that is asking for utopia.

There are two issues here. What I think about myself and what others think about me. I have control over only one of those.

Every person I meet should treat me as an equal? Legally they must but not socially. That would be nice but good luck on it happening. Some of those people might even be the same race as I but they just happen to think they're better. I can't change that. I have to do some adjusting of myself for that or feel crappy and I won't buy others' poor opinions of me if I think they are unwarranted. Sorry, doesn't apply.

It's a psychological issue as others have mentioned. If you feel cheated in the looks department don't blame your ancestors or others' judgment. Go ahead and take advantage of all the marketing to people who feel unattractive. Or learn how to love yourself the way you are. Life will feel better.

This simplistic but not simple message certainly isn't for everyone reading here but I do think there are some here who would benefit from considering it.

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Old 12-11-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Are you actually saying you have never heard of this before? Where have you been?

Did you ever hear "Black is Beautiful"? Did you wonder why Black people thought it was necessary to make this a slogan?

I mean, just the one example of African American people in the USA has historical examples of preference for lighter skin tones going back 300+ years. This has been an extremely hateful and destructive thread in AA life. And that's just one example.
I'm saying I never heard the term "colorism" before. The concept is, I'm sure, well-known to all of us.

Of course, we all know the term "racism," but that isn't quite the same thing, is it?
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Old 12-11-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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I'm saying I never heard the term "colorism" before. The concept is, I'm sure, well-known to all of us.

Of course, we all know the term "racism," but that isn't quite the same thing, is it?
If the concept was well known to you, didn't you think the concept had a name?
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