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Originally Posted by Kitten01
You are really taking this thing to a whole new level and completely blowing it out of proportion. Because a woman shows some leg (I am In no way talking about being half naked) or some cleavage does not mean she believes that is all she is worth. Nor does it mean she'll be doing lap dances or dancing on a pole...WTF?!
Your post was so "extra" and assumptions so over the top I don't even know where to begin to address it. Neither I nor any other woman is responsible for another woman's security or lack thereof. Nor is any woman required to uphold the exact same values and to the same degree as anyone else. It is your husband's job to uphold and respect the sanctity of your marriage. If you find him looking a little too long at the cleavage of another woman, that is your problem to address with him. He would be the one disrespecting you, or are you ken who believes a man has no control over his sexual urges and it's up to the women to dress in a way (completely covered) so as not to tempt him? Either way, you need to take that up with your hubby, not the woman who is dressed in a way YOU feel is revealing. And again...revealing to you may be completely different than what revealing means to someone else. Are form fitting, yet not super tight clothes revealing? Is showing even a little cleavage revealing? Is showing more leg than below the knee revealing? See what I mean? There is no general agreement as to what is considered to be "revealing dress" and we'd all have a different opinion as to what that actually means. So should all women dress in burkas just to be on the safe side! Would that make you feel better?
Oh and in case you didn't get the memo, women's lib is about women making their own choice about any and everything regarding their lives. Even if you don't necessarily agree with the choices, if you're truly a feminist, you defend the right for a woman to be able to make that choice for herself.
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OK. OK. Heard. Enough mud-slinging on me or my partner. I have repeatedly stated that its not my partner who looks. He does not. I have no issues with him whatsoever. So you can drop that please.
And the kind of clothing you describe is fine. Upto knee length and all that. You are exaggerating it to say burqa...i never said so
and the kind of clothing described is NOT what women wear ...tiny little shorts...massive cleavage
why bikinis? men wear shorts...but women have to wear bikinis where half the bottom is hanging out?
can't one wear a sports bra and shorts.
I get that each person's standards may be different. But each person KNOWS what body parts are being revealed and how much and whats the intent...is it really out of necessity or to get an ego boost?
I don't have any problem with my hubby. I have problem with women dressed that way. Honestly, I have a low opinion of them. It seems sex is sold like the lowest possible thing. Its not scared anymore...people display body parts as though there is nothing more to them.
And thanks for the memo about feminism. Each person ahs THEIR OWN version of feminism. Some people take it to mean freedom without responsibility...that women should do whatever they want and nobody must question them and that they should not be held accountable for how they conduct themselves in public or take any responsibility.
I would never want my kinds to think its OK to sleep as a teenager or dress like a hooker. Sex is scared and so is the body and women need to uphold their dignity and not be piece of meat to all and any passerby...whatever be the ''standards'' of clothing...there is a common sense and each person knows why the cleavage is being shown and why there is the extra leg (waxed up and shined) to be shown off.
One can debate on a forum...but women have to ask themselves what they want...
and my point with the pole dancing was with response to the ''amp up the sexy'' part of the post earlier..so where will this end? women must compete more and more to amp up their sexuality? like there is nothing else to them? where will this end...with everybody walking around like a stripper?
yes so what are the boundaries?
is it really OK for someone to say they can walk around in a bikini and thats an OK standard for them and someone else may say they want to walk around topless everywhere...even to stores
some people wear pretty much completely see-through clothing in the summers. Thats OK for them.
Hey someone may walk around nude (many are almost semi-nude anyways in the summer..women much more so in an obviously attention-seeking manner...I am sure many have noticed that...its not just the comfort women use the summer time to show off maximum skin in maximum provocative way...men don't go around shirtless to walmart usually but women walk around in barely there shorts and see through netted transparent shirts...I'm not exaggerating and I'm sure people know what I am talking about).
so bikini is OK now...then someone would want to go topless...the stores and streets are filled with overly flashy dressed people...so each person tries to amp up their sexy...so this may only end in strippers all over...where is the cutoff??
don't the liberated women have any sense of responsibility? is it always to blame others or their husbands?
is this a role model to set to children growing up?
isn't there any sense of responsibility?
Thats my opinion. And I'm not posting here anymore.
Women are free too free to bargain their skin show for superficial attention all they want. I believe it caused damage to the society...and creates a negative idea for others...and re-inforces the sex objectification of women.
And eventually those women only get lust, not love or real respect.
One do what one wants, one gets what one seeks...if its lust from strangers and disrespect from others and causes daage to some others, so be it. Freedom eventually meets up with responsibility, whether one like it or not.
Thats all I have to say.