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Old 03-04-2009, 11:30 AM
 
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I have a question about free weights. Everybody is talking about doing free weights at the gym. I use machines and increase weights by 5 lbs in between sets. Usually free weights go 10lb inclements. I can't do exercises (shoulders lateral raise etc) going from let's say 10lbs to 20lbs for the 2nd set. Can you guys give me some input. I really want to start using free weights instead of machines. Thank you.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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I have a question about free weights. Everybody is talking about doing free weights at the gym. I use machines and increase weights by 5 lbs in between sets. Usually free weights go 10lb inclements. I can't do exercises (shoulders lateral raise etc) going from let's say 10lbs to 20lbs for the 2nd set. Can you guys give me some input. I really want to start using free weights instead of machines. Thank you.

do more sets of 10lbs until you build up your strength. Or find free weights in 5lb increments.

Increasing weight like that with those iso moves is going to be tough. Its more important and beneficial when doing your bigger compound stuff as free weights work stabilixer muscles when doing compounds.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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what do you mean by this? thank you.

"Its more important and beneficial when doing your bigger compound stuff as free weights work stabilixer muscles when doing compounds.[/quote]"
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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I can't do exercises (shoulders lateral raise etc) going from let's say 10lbs to 20lbs for the 2nd set. Can you guys give me some input. I really want to start using free weights instead of machines. Thank you.
Usually gyms have them in 5lb increments. You should be using heavier weight anyway. Just make the jump and decrease the number of reps in each set. You should be doing 8-10 reps per set anyway. If you can do more than 10 reps then you are not using enough weight.

Please tell me you are not doing the high rep low weight "does-absolutely-nothing-for-you" type workouts.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:14 PM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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what do you mean by this? thank you.

"Its more important and beneficial when doing your bigger compound stuff as free weights work stabilixer muscles when doing compounds.
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ok take for example a bench press. You can either do it with a machine or with free weights.

Doing this with free weights is beneficial because you will struggle more to stabilize the barbell. Rather than a machine with automatically stabilizes the weight and takes any struggle for fluid movement out of the lift.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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Usually gyms have them in 5lb increments. You should be using heavier weight anyway. Just make the jump and decrease the number of reps in each set. You should be doing 8-10 reps per set anyway. If you can do more than 10 reps then you are not using enough weight.

Please tell me you are not doing the high rep low weight "does-absolutely-nothing-for-you" type workouts.
no i am not doing high rep. but my gym has only 10lbs increments. when i do the lateral raises it's hard to jump by 10lbs so i guess the second set should be 5-6 reps? i don't think i could do more and the third set another 10lbs increase with 4-5 reps?
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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no i am not doing high rep. but my gym has only 10lbs increments. when i do the lateral raises it's hard to jump by 10lbs so i guess the second set should be 5-6 reps? i don't think i could do more and the third set another 10lbs increase with 4-5 reps?

My personal belief is if you can't do 3 sets of 12 reps then don't up the weight.

But thats my style I know many are different.
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:11 AM
 
Location: SUNNY AZ
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what do you mean by this? thank you.

"Its more important and beneficial when doing your bigger compound stuff as free weights work stabilixer muscles when doing compounds.
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It means that when you do free weights you are not only working the targeted muscles but you are increasing your core strength because free weights force you to balance thus, using core muscles. I do love free weights however; there are some machines that work just as well. For instance; leg curls and leg extensions....most gyms have two types of machines for this....choose the machines that allow you to set a weight stack for each leg....this requires the same amount of training for each leg instead of one leg doing 60 or even 70 percent of the work and it also requires more ab work (huge part of core strength).
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:28 PM
 
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In your example, usinf laterals for shoulders, you should be doing some kind of heavier pressing movement first. The shoulder press with barbell or dumbells would be the movement to concentrate on adding thwe "10 pounds" to. Then your second movement could be laterals and possibly bent laterals.

You don't really need all three (or two) movements to be "mass builders" so to speak.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:14 PM
 
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In your example, usinf laterals for shoulders, you should be doing some kind of heavier pressing movement first. The shoulder press with barbell or dumbells would be the movement to concentrate on adding thwe "10 pounds" to. Then your second movement could be laterals and possibly bent laterals.

You don't really need all three (or two) movements to be "mass builders" so to speak.
so you are saying if i do 3-4sets of shoulders all 3-4 sets can be different exercises.
lets say first set is shoulder press at 30lbs
second set is shoulder press at 40lbs
third set is side lateral at 25lbs
fourth set is side lateral at 30lbs?
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