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Since Dugin's name has been mentioned already few times around here, I had to check on him/bring him in conversation after all.
So here it goes;
Painting of the late Nicholas in the background - check. Beard a la 19th century - check.
Philosopher - check. (I am making my own assessments here - what segment of Russian society he represents.)
So this is his interview from 2016 with BBC; his English is not the greatest, but if you are patient enough - it gets better the longer he talks, and he definitely brings his point across.
I have to say that what he is saying in this case is actually correct.
The "truth" is a matter of belief in the modern world.
Because if you will start talking about the "ultimate truth" - then you already have to get out of philosophy and to proceed to theology, bringing in such concepts as "god," "Christ" and so on.
But the problem is Russia itself is democracy will never come under Putin’s shadow. When he is toppled or steps down, maybe there will be some hope. Are there people protesting on the streets yet?
The real problem is, that Russians should stop being the perfectionists - that's what brings their radicalism after all.
Every time they overthrown their governments, they strive to come up with something perfect, some perfect solution that will solve not only Russian problems, but problems of the rest of the world (I suppose that was at the back of their minds during that Socialist revolution of 1917.)
But the solution ( or "ultimate truth," or "peace on Earth," or whatever you want to call it,) doesn't come through Russia, as much as it doesn't come through America.
Therefore, there is no sense for them to overthrow Putin any longer, because like Soviet government before him, he accomplished certain positive things for Russia - he was not COMPLETELY negative force.
So instead of completely throwing this digit out of equation, they simply need to add another digit to their government - i.e. the left wing party, that will control Putin's right-wing team. This should do the trick.
This of course is not the kind of "opposition" that the West is pushing for, since it won't benefit the West, but that's the whole point - that part of the world can't have the democracy, as long as the West is trying to have its way.
Once the West will get preoccupied with its own internal problems ( and it will, because they keep on growing,) Russians will figure out their own solutions that are appropriate for their society.
So I am looking at yet another video of Dugin on Youtube, in Russian.
821 k subscribers, 2.1 k likes.
Not bad.
So he definitely has his own audience in Russia.
But A. Sharij has 2.38 million subscribers on his channel, and this includes BOTH Ukrainians and Russians alike)))
So this gives you some perspective in comparison, doesn't it?
There were a bunch of people protesting in Khabarovsk, at least recently. The arrest of Sergei Furgal, the governor of the Krai (federal region) did not go over well with much of the local populace. The long arm of the Kremlin is stretched a bit thinner in the Russian far east.
They still do.
There is the whole bunch of Ukrainians living there, ( and plenty of others exiled from western parts of Russia throughout history, to Siberia/Far East,) so they are all "Russians" now. And they are protesting.
So the central regions of Russia ( Moscow including) will find themselves surrounded by well-organized, left-minded people.
And by the way, remember the latest upheaval in Bashkotarstan that me and Grega discussed on another thread?
They actually succeeded fighting the thugs off ( local business owners that were plundering the place), and now Putin is publicly conceding, saying that the protesters were actually right, and the truth is on their side.
Democracy will come to Belarus - it’s a matter of time. There’s a lot of FUD about world politics right now, and also an agenda-driven attempt at creating a “crisis of democracy” narrative, when more countries are opting for this system - still the “worst form of government except all others” - than ever in human history. It won’t come overnight, it won’t be mature overnight etc (this was true even in the US, where the modern form of democracy was born). Not sure about these protests, but resistance and defiance of authority, in principle, is always a good sign.
What's really going on is the USSR is still falling apart. In Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova and yes Belarus. Different stages and different paths, but its all the same rotten ship still floating out there slowing succumbing to reality. People don't want to be owned by a corrupt mafia style system, with the poverty and state violence is creates. "stability" is the reward for paying your dues to the mafia.
Putin tries to keep them all from drifting by military occupation of parts of their countries mixed in with high level corruption. Georgia and Moldova are examples where the Putin doctrine has been mostly successful. In Ukraine it clearly failed. Belarus we'll see.
By announcing his willingness to use force against the Belarus opposition, today Putin made Belarusians understand they will never be free if they are partnered with Russia. It is a risk, but that's classic Putin taking risks. At least now the good people there understand clearly who is their friend and who wants to keep them down.
What do you mean? What freedom you're talking about? What is wrong? Belarus now has one sixth of the Global potash fertilizer market, one tenth of the Global wheel track market etc. These all are big factories and they work due to Lukashenko's policy.
If a Belarus citizen wants to migrate to another country he or she can freely do it. There are many Belorussians in the USA.
Well, let's talk about turnover of power. We can see in some countries of Europe that second government changes first government, third government changes second... This vanity doesn't solve problems of unemployment or economical growth. This is senseless slideshow without responsibility!
Well, let's talk about turnover of power. We can see in some countries of Europe that second government changes first government, third government changes second... This vanity doesn't solve problems of unemployment or economical growth. This is senseless slideshow without responsibility!
This needs to be avoided at all costs. As for DKM and freedom, freedom is just a bullet word.
Most Americans live in a guilded cage but are too dumb to know it.
What do you mean? What freedom you're talking about? What is wrong? Belarus now has one sixth of the Global potash fertilizer market, one tenth of the Global wheel track market etc. These all are big factories and they work due to Lukashenko's policy.
If a Belarus citizen wants to migrate to another country he or she can freely do it. There are many Belorussians in the USA.
Well, let's talk about turnover of power. We can see in some countries of Europe that second government changes first government, third government changes second... This vanity doesn't solve problems of unemployment or economical growth. This is senseless slideshow without responsibility!
I'll tell you what "freedom" he is talking about.
The kind that's already established today in Ukraine, with the help of the Nationalists.
Tikhanovskaya said Russia would be welcomed as a mediator at negotiations.
The Belarussian government is going to find ports other than Lithuanian ports for the transit of Belarussian goods coming into the country by sea.
That's a hefty sum. Said to be 30% of Lithuanias customs revenue. If they want to whine more then these sanctions will be applied to overland goods as well.
It is not inconceivable that Belarus can use Russian ports also.
Tikhanovskaya said Russia would be welcomed as a mediator at negotiations.
Negotiations with WHOM?
Never mind, it was a rhetoric question, she needs to go back to kitchen to fry her cutlets.
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The Belarussian government is going to find ports other than Lithuanian ports for the transit of Belarussian goods coming into the country by sea.
That's a hefty sum. Said to be 30% of Lithuanias customs revenue. If they want to whine more then these sanctions will be applied to overland goods as well.
It is not inconceivable that Belarus can use Russian ports also.
I am a bit worried whether L. and P. will find the common language when it comes to economy, since both economies are run in a very different manner.
But since Lukashenko ( after that whole ordeal with 31 Russians detained in Belorussia being under threat to be extradited to Ukraine,) turned 180 after that, and appealed to Putin, I assume they will figure it out.
Kolesnikova admits this movement received 53 million euros from outside sources.
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Situation in Belarus
