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still waiting for a fact based rebuttal to the argument, if you have one......
Well, I apologize for making you wait.
Now I'm at work, but if I summon the patience to summarize more that you won't read or understand, I'll post them yet again.
either obama has not thought things through or he is deliberately trying to sabotage american workers.
the government has just taken over GM and yet has plans to enact cap and trade. when you are trying (if you are actually trying) to get car manufacturing back up and running on the backs of american taxpayers, why on earth would you institute a tax on american business THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD IS EXEMPT FROM? why would you implement a new tax that is specific to american industry and now also specific to the american taxpayer.
also, if you state that housing is the root of the problem why on earth would you consider more bailouts (california is being considered for a bailout) and also keep printing money, when you know that the net effect of all of this money printing would be increasing inflation, leading to hyperinflation, as well as higher interest rates for home purchase. that would help restrict the ability of any working american to be in a position to buy a house and help mop up the housing reserve, not to mention that a lot more houses will go into foreclosure!
WTH!
Nevermind, you win Sandy.
Whatever you say.
I can't get past that first ridiculous statement.
If you start phrasing things a little less... partisan, I'll take it more seriously.
either obama has not thought things through or he is deliberately trying to sabotage american workers.
the government has just taken over GM and yet has plans to enact cap and trade. when you are trying (if you are actually trying) to get car manufacturing back up and running on the backs of american taxpayers, why on earth would you institute a tax on american business THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD IS EXEMPT FROM? why would you implement a new tax that is specific to american industry and now also specific to the american taxpayer.
also, if you state that housing is the root of the problem why on earth would you consider more bailouts (california is being considered for a bailout) and also keep printing money, when you know that the net effect of all of this money printing would be increasing inflation, leading to hyperinflation, as well as higher interest rates for home purchase. that would help restrict the ability of any working american to be in a position to buy a house and help mop up the housing reserve, not to mention that a lot more houses will go into foreclosure!
WTH!
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^ This user is on your Ignore List. (not you geechie)
You were the fasted add to my ignore list ever.
Since your 2nd day here, so don't think I'm ignor... oh wait, I am.
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I'll try to make it through again Sandy - I'm not used to your writing style.
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either obama has not thought things through or he is deliberately trying to sabotage american workers.
Your conclusion, right?
Its not shocking that you dislike Obama.
You always have.
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the government has just taken over GM and yet has plans to enact cap and trade.
And I heard cap and trade was going to cost $3100!
Do you realize that GM and cap/trade are separate things?
I realize you wanted GM to fail outright and as fast as possible - I don't.
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when you are trying (if you are actually trying) to get car manufacturing back up and running on the backs of american taxpayers, why on earth would you institute a tax on american business THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD IS EXEMPT FROM? why would you implement a new tax that is specific to american industry and now also specific to the american taxpayer.
Ahh, you want Obama to tax the world.
I like your train of thought - not sure the rest of the world will sign up though.
Keep in mind we are the largest polluters.
If we can't get our own **** together (and we lag behind many others in restricting emissions) what business do we have trying to tell anyone else what to do.
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also, if you state that housing is the root of the problem why on earth would you consider more bailouts (california is being considered for a bailout) and also keep printing money, when you know that the net effect of all of this money printing would be increasing inflation, leading to hyperinflation, as well as higher interest rates for home purchase.
You write big sentences.
That is the problem.
Hemmingway was great because he was easy to read.
I never said housing was the problem.
I agree it is a common perception.
You'd have to find a quote for me to believe that Obama made that statement, if that is your assertion.
Are you worried that the economy is rebounding, lol?
You give that impression.
If California gets a bailout, they better pay that **** back.
Oh wait, they currently pay $100 for every $81 they get.
They are already a donor state - maybe we can just call this evening things up a little.
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that would help restrict the ability of any working american to be in a position to buy a house and help mop up the housing reserve, not to mention that a lot more houses will go into foreclosure!
WTH!
Gosh, maybe I shouldn't have cut the paragraph there.
I thought it was a new sentence (saw a period), but it sure looks like it belongs with the previous sentence.
There, I gave it a shot.
Not really sure what you are arguing.
Maybe I'll try again later.
It's like a puzzle!
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Fidel Obama is going to destroy us one day and one mistake at a time.
Today there is talk he wants to steal the GM retirees EARNED retirement money from them. He does not believe someone who worked for a company for 40 years deserves his/her money. What a moron he is.
His economic plans are a disaster.
He wants GM and the rest of them to totally fail on purpose.
Yet the village idiot Obama can fix the problem in one minute flat by enacting a total ban on imported cars.
He is not smart enough to see that?
And do not forget the hidden parts of his socialist takeovers, his liberal buddies will be getting paid while investors get ripped off.
OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG -- it's the end of the world, run for cover....Those darn democrats can't wait to complete their socialization of the United States.....
not all democrats support obama, just as not all democrats support the government taking over the auto industry. it looks like the government is doing a rather poor job of it so far, from the cap and trade plan, to GM keeping its in house lobbyists and their associated cost to be saddled with the taxpayers, to the fact that the GM dealer kiss off could cost the fed 1.3 billion dollars.
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OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG -- it's the end of the world, run for cover....Those darn democrats can't wait to complete their socialization of the United States.....
Nah, even some smart dems are beginning to see what mistake they made with Fidel Obama and starting to turn against him after seeing him in action.
People are starting to see where he is taking us and people will stop it before it goes to far.
Time to take a stand against Obama and his socialization of our country.
If this is not socialization then what do you call it??
if you are trying to turn GM around, why would you close profitable dealerships? why wouldn't you wait and see which dealerships sell cars after the bankruptcy? it doesn't cost the government anything to keep them open as the dealers pay expenses out of their pockets. also, why would you close some dealerships and then reopen them with political intervention? does that sound like a well thought-out plan? another issue is that if you make GM a federal entity, where is the motivation to succeed? if they screw up again, what happens?
we gave chrysler away to fiat for NO MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKET so i guess anything is possible anymore.
Last edited by floridasandy; 06-14-2009 at 04:36 AM..
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