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Old 08-29-2008, 06:36 AM
 
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Consider that Obama's votes were in line with the president's position 40% of the time in 2007. That means that 40% of the time Obama thinks that Bush is right.


FactCheck.org: Is it true John McCain voted with George Bush 95 percent of the time?
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:38 AM
 
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So, Bush is only wrong 60% of the time. That's much better than I would have expected.

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Old 08-29-2008, 06:40 AM
 
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No, it means Obama got it right 40% of the time.

And for all the people that hate Bush, they should be concerned that Obama votes in line with Republicans as much as he does.
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:43 AM
 
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I dont see what you're getting at. Your link says,

"So to sum up, McCain has indeed voted to support the unpopular Bush 95 percent of the time most recently, but less so in earlier years. And Obama has voted pretty close to 100 percent in line with fellow Democrats during his brief Senate career."

One place where Obama and Bush both voted "Yea" was on the new GI Bill. (Obama is on the US Senate's Veterans Affairs committee even though he was never a POW.) The entire Senate was there to vote - except Ted Kennedy, who was in the hospital, and John McCain, whose version had not been accepted, and who rather than being man enough to at least show up and vote "Present" chose to stay home and sulk.


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Old 08-29-2008, 06:43 AM
 
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No, it means Obama got it right 40% of the time.
You forgot to include the all-important phrase, "in my opinion."

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And for all the people that hate Bush, they should be concerned that Obama votes in line with Republicans as much as he does.

You seem to think that people despise Bush for no good reason.

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Old 08-29-2008, 06:44 AM
 
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:58 AM
 
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I dont see what you're getting at. Your link says,

"So to sum up, McCain has indeed voted to support the unpopular Bush 95 percent of the time most recently, but less so in earlier years. And Obama has voted pretty close to 100 percent in line with fellow Democrats during his brief Senate career."
I think it's just saying that Democrats in Congress voted with Republicans around 40% of the time. And Obama followed his fellow Democrats nearly 100% of the time. It still means that 4 times out of 10 Obama agreed with Bush. But Obama doesn't remind his followers about it on the stump. Why not?
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:00 AM
 
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I think it's just saying that Democrats in Congress voted with Republicans around 40% of the time. And Obama followed his fellow Democrats nearly 100% of the time. It still means that 4 times out of 10 Obama agreed with Bush. But Obama doesn't remind his followers about it on the stump. Why not?
Probably for the same reason that McCain won't mention it, either. Many of those votes "with" Bush probably involved funding for the troops.
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:07 AM
 
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Lightbulb Obama Agrees With Bush 4 Times Out Of 10.

I don't think that anyone is claiming that Bush is totally wrong. Just mostly wrong. 40% would be a good batting average, but in presidential politics, it's abysmal.
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:11 AM
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Exactly. I'm no Bush fan (never liked, or voted for him) but he isn't always wrong, he's just wrong more than I am comfortable with. Bush has done some good things that I support, and if I were in office would have been on board with, but what he has mucked up is just too much for me to ignore, and far outweighs what he has done right.
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