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Old 06-19-2008, 01:18 PM
 
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He hasn't even tried to work with McCain's campaign to pursue and agreement. He's already decided it will not go anywhere.
Do you know ANYTHING???

Yes the campaigns did speak and no McCain (as I pointed out already) will not hold the RNC and 527's to any funding standards so there is absolutely no point in accepting public funding.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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That would be you to make such a ridiculous claim.

If you really want to see slime and deceit, connect the dots from McCain to Enron and the California energy “crisis” and the current oil “crisis”

Anyone who really understands that, would be truly incompetent to support such a corrupt person like McCain.
Why don't you address the fact that your OP is flat out wrong based on the article I posted. You can't so you want to take the thread in another direction.

Furthermore, I don't support McCain. He and Obama are pretty much the same. Neither stands for anything other than the continuation of the status quo.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Do you know ANYTHING???

Yes the campaigns did speak and no McCain (as I pointed out already) will not hold the RNC and 527's to any funding standards so there is absolutely no point in accepting public funding.
That's not what McCain said. You should read links when posted.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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This is just de javu all over again - you folks worrying about what the Obama campaign is doing. Yeah, ask the Clinton campaign how far that has gotten them. Ooops, that's right, you've got unpopular nominee who is pushing for unpopular policies. I see why it gets tough to support him, give money or attend his events. It must be that embarrassing.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:27 PM
 
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That's not what McCain said. You should read links when posted.

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Obama campaign lawyer Robert Bauer said he had met with McCain lawyers to discuss terms for both campaigns operating in the public financing system, but he said they could not agree on how to limit spending by the campaigns and outside groups heading into the late summer party conventions.
Obama opts out of public campaign finance system - Yahoo! News (broken link)

Obama's people are saying they met.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:28 PM
 
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Obama, unlike most candidates plans to compete in all 50 states. That can't be done on public funding.

It's a FACT that McCain scammed the system already. Why should Obama tie his hands over such a fraud like McCain?

Obama said he would be willing to negotiate with McCain, but McCain had absolutely no interest in resticting the RNC and 527's. It's all a game to him.

This way candidate McCain supposedly takes a high road, but in reality is using others routes to the same end.

Spare us the contrived "lie"

Most Americans see what McCain is doing.

Unfortunately for McCain also, is that Obama raises millions from ordinary Americans.

Call a Obama whatever you like or whatever the AM dial and wingnut blogs tell you to call him, but Obama would have been foolish to take McCain's silly bait.



That would be you to make such a ridiculous claim.

If you really want to see slime and deceit, connect the dots from McCain to Enron and the California energy “crisis” and the current oil “crisis”

Anyone who really understands that, would be truly incompetent to support such a corrupt person like McCain.
Try to spin it more, you are doing a good job.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Obama opts out of public campaign finance system - Yahoo! News (broken link)

Obama's people are saying they met.
So they do. And they couldn't agree to how to deal with outside groups. McCain has already stated that he thinks they're doing a disservice to the party and the country. Does Obama want to outlaw them completely? That would also mean that groups of citizens couldn't run ads for or against a candidate either limiting free speech. That's the GOP's issue with McCain/Feingold. It limits free speech by citizens, not just lobbyists.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Do you know ANYTHING???

Yes the campaigns did speak and no McCain (as I pointed out already) will not hold the RNC and 527's to any funding standards so there is absolutely no point in accepting public funding.
There is nothing that McCain can do other than speak out against the 527 ads - which he has done and has pledged to continue doing. Obama's people are claiming that they talked about the issue during a meeting about an entirely different topic (town hall debates that Obama is trying to weasel out of), while McCain's people are denying that it was discussed. Regardless, McCain is on board with public financing while Obama is backing out. Once again, nothing has changed other than Obama's realization that he can make more money by turning down public financing (the evilness of this that Obama is supposed to be against is still there).
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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So Obama lied when he pledged to follow the public campaign finance system. yawn. Typical politics from a liberal Cook county politician. The real story is that anyone believed him in the first place or shocked in seeing him break his pledge. . . I'm guessing it won't be his last
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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Why don't you address the fact that your OP is flat out wrong based on the article I posted. You can't so you want to take the thread in another direction
No, it's all related and you can't seem to refute it.

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That's not what McCain said
I don't trust what McCain says. His actions contradict his words.

Do you believe McCain now when he says he is for drilling? Or weeks ago when he said it was wrong?

Do you believe him now when he supports extreme evangelical leaders or in 2000, when he denounced them?

Do you believe McCain when he said the Enron loophole was bad or now, when he not only supports it, but has one of its main proponents (former Sen Gramm) as a major player in his campaign?
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