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Old 02-18-2020, 09:58 AM
 
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Buttigieg is now even with Klobuchar in the latest national. She has obvious taken some of his support, I expect that will result in neither of them capturing sufficient support to advance.
In the national RCP poll average, Klobuchar is at 5.8 and Buttigieg is at 10.0. That is not high for Pete, but Amy it is alarmingly low for this stage of the game for Amy. She in sixth place. She has her work cut out for her and she better get on it.
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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Bernie is socialist, not a communist. Take time to read some history...

The goal of socialism is communism.
- Vladimir Lenin

Scratch a Socialist, reveal a Communist
- ADogNamedSam
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Note that I could but I’m not getting into it since it’s off topic and you’ve already decided anyway.

Impeachment is over let’s move on.
In other words, you can't recite even one simple bit of evidence showing intent from the (so-called) transcript. The case for impeachment all along was dependent on inference and supposition.

In any normal circumstance, such as a criminal trial or union discharge hearing, that would get you laughed out of the room.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Dems are united behind our number one goal of making DJT a one term president.

While Bloomberg may not be an ideal candidate, he’s still far better than Trump and if it looks like he has the best chance to defeat him then Dem voters will give that serious weight in their decision.
Conservative pundit Hugh Hewitt is calling Bloomberg "A Republican who doesn't like guns and Pepsi." The more I listen to past clips from Bloomberg, the more I see that Hewitt is right.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Anyone else notice that one after another Dem candidate has been tripped up by identity politics?

The first may have been Elizabeth Warren who took untold grief for having claimed Native American ancestry. Then Joe Biden was attacked by Harris and others for past missteps, such as his work with segregationist James Eastland. Harris herself was attacked by 'black lives matters' types for her record as prosecutor, and then Tulsi Gabbard made mincemeat of Harris over this in one of the debates.

The party in general took heat for the 'all-white' debate in Iowa. Bloomberg is taking heat for his handling of race issues as NYC mayor. And now even Amy Klobuchar is getting grief for race-related issues from her time as a prosecutor in MN. Mayor Pete's record on race issues as South Bend, IN mayor has been questioned, and Mayor Pete has struggled to gain support among black voters.

I have tried to tell Democrats for years: this id politics stuff will come back to bite. They don't seem to listen.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No one passes the purity test.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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In other words
No, I told you why I'm not engaging with you on impeachment anymore in this thread. If you prefer to substitute my clearly stated reason for a fantasy that only exists in your mind, I guess you are welcome but that has no basis in reality.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:48 PM
 
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Biden’s poll numbers are collapsing even faster than his mental faculties.
Biden is sinking but it ain't over yet. He is ahead of Warren, Mayor Pete and Klobuchar in almost every state up to vote. Good observation here.

Don’t bet against Joe Biden just yet. He has an ace up his sleeve.

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Biden’s campaign stumbled in the first two states on the Democratic calendar, Iowa and New Hampshire. His weak fourth-place finish in Iowa was followed by a horrific fifth-place showing in New Hampshire. Pundits proclaimed his campaign dead in the water and projected his support would soon drain away.

The polls, however, show the pundits are wrong. Biden has always been strongest among black voters, in part because he was vice president to Barack Obama, the nation’s first black president. Contrary to predictions, blacks have not abandoned Biden’s allegedly sinking ship. Instead, polls taken since New Hampshire in five different states by five different pollsters show Biden receiving between 36 percent and 41.5 percent of the black vote. That’s an amazingly consistent result and unlikely to be a coincidence.
These findings show how Biden can get back into the top tier of candidates. Black voters were 13 percent of Nevada’s Democratic electorate in 2016, likely large enough to let Biden break the 15 percent threshold there that qualifies him to get delegates with minimal support from other voters. The Democratic primary electorate in South Carolina, the final state to vote before Super Tuesday on March 3, was 61 percent black in 2016. That’s large enough to let Biden win if he gets 40 percent or so of the black vote, even if he gets a paltry 10 percent or so among whites. He will then go into the 14 states voting on Super Tuesday with momentum fueled by black voters.

Biden’s bet on black voters should then pay off big. In 2016, black voters comprised at least 19 percent of the Democratic vote in six Super Tuesday states and were about a third to half of the vote in three of them. Biden should finish in the top three in all of those and could even win some depending on how well he does among whites. That gives him media buzz and delegates.

Blacks are just as important in the states that vote in the following two weeks. One, Mississippi, is dominated by black voters, and blacks are between 20 and 27 percent of the electorate in five others. If Biden keeps getting 40 percent or so of the black vote, he will likely win some of these states and get loads of delegates out of all of them.
if Biden’s black support holds up that long, he will have prevented Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) from locking up the nomination before the convention. Democrats award their delegates according to a candidate’s share of the popular vote, so long as that person received at least 15 percent either statewide or in a congressional district. If Biden has locked up the black vote and former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg and former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg are each breaking 15 percent of the white vote, then Sanders will not have a large delegate lead after four states vote on March 17. More than 61 percent of the delegates will have been awarded by that date; Sanders cannot win the remaining states by large enough margins to give him a majority before the convention.

This means Biden can go into the convention with a good shot of winning because of his support among the Democratic establishment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...mments-wrapper
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Old 02-18-2020, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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No, I told you why I'm not engaging with you on impeachment anymore in this thread. If you prefer to substitute my clearly stated reason for a fantasy that only exists in your mind, I guess you are welcome but that has no basis in reality.
OK fair enough--the practice of stuffing words in the mouths of others is a pet peeve of mine, and I should have known better.

Just duly noted that you posted the accusation:
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The POTUS attempted to leverage 400 million in taxpayer money for his re-election bid, maybe no objection from team red but definitely a "there there" for anyone else.
I asked for simple evidence from the primary source, the (so-called) transcript of the July 25 call. In particular, evidence not based on inference or supposition. You were unable or unwilling to supply that.
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Old 02-18-2020, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Biden is sinking but it ain't over yet. He is ahead of Warren, Mayor Pete and Klobuchar in almost every state up to vote. Good observation here.

Don’t bet against Joe Biden just yet. He has an ace up his sleeve.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...mments-wrapper
Agreed, we are just past mile 1 of a 26.2 mile marathon race. Biden does have a lot of underlying problems, however. Referring to a 21-yr-old female student as "dog-faced" is just the latest example.
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