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Old 03-19-2008, 08:26 PM
 
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Well I'm not surprised that Ron Paul is being slighted by Mr. Neo-con McCain. On his website via Washington Times story, Paul says that he has heard nothing from the McCain people about an invite to the convention or how McCain plans to try and reach out to the real conservatives in the party. Save your breath McCain won't because he figures he doesn't need them. Well then I guess he doesn't need my vote, not that he was going to get it anyway. Read for yourself and see what you think. Should Paul formally declare the end of his presidential bid to try and have McCain slot him and his supporters into a fair spot at the convention and therefore in the party's platform?


Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:30 PM
 
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That's it... I am going to vote for Obama... that pisses me off...
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Ron Paul isn't even a footnote. He's an asterix.
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Turn right at the stop sign
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From the article:

"Mr. McCain hasn't approached Mr. Paul's voters because Mr. Paul has not called to say he is ending his run, says McCain campaign senior adviser Charles Black."

So how is this John McCain slighting Ron Paul? If Ron Paul hasn't officially abandoned his presidential campaign then it would not be appropriate for John McCain to approach Paul supporters and ask for their votes.

While by delegate count John McCain has wrapped up the nomination, not all of the states have concluded their primary voting. I would not expect invitations to speak at the Republican convention to be offered up until the end of all the primaries. At that point, I would think many of those that ran for the Republican nomination will appear at the convention, including Ron Paul.
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:26 AM
 
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That's it... I am going to vote for Obama... that pisses me off...
that's it? your giving up your vote for Ron? for Obama? I wouldn't vote these CFR scum candidates
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:30 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Hopefully, Ron Paul never ends his campaign. He has my support.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:34 AM
 
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Should Paul formally declare the end of his presidential bid to try and have McCain slot him and his supporters into a fair spot at the convention and therefore in the party's platform?
I don't believe so and here is the reason why.

Paul supporters lead Missouri delegate revolt (http://www.showmenews.com/2008/Mar/20080319News025.asp - broken link)

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Paul’s supporters elected hundreds of delegates to the upcoming congressional and district and state conventions, nabbing up to 20 percent of the available county delegates, some Paul followers said.

The results aren’t expected to change Missouri’s votes at the party’s national convention, but they are causing a minor complication for presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain and embarrassment for Missouri party regulars.
The Paul campaign is as much about restoring traditional conservatism as it is about the Presidency. Their coup in Missouri is what must take place nationally for our current system of politics to be revitalized.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I don't believe so and here is the reason why.

Paul supporters lead Missouri delegate revolt (http://www.showmenews.com/2008/Mar/20080319News025.asp - broken link)



The Paul campaign is as much about restoring traditional conservatism as it is about the Presidency. Their coup in Missouri is what must take place nationally for our current system of politics to be revitalized.
Although I don't agree with a lot of Ron Paul's ideas, I do support and agree with this movement that has formed because of him. This country needs third, fourth and fifth parties. All the people of America need to feel that they have representation in our government and the two party system can not achieve that. Our current system also tends to reduce issues to just black and white, when in reality there are many shades of gray.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:51 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Although I don't agree with a lot of Ron Paul's ideas, I do support and agree with this movement that has formed because of him. This country needs third, fourth and fifth parties. All the people of America need to feel that they have representation in our government and the two party system can not achieve that. Our current system also tends to reduce issues to just black and white, when in reality there are many shades of gray.

Art123 is right - the Ron Paul supporters must realize that his views are actually TOO conservative for the Republican party. As much as they may put up the front that they only want 51% on their side, they really do want to build a working majority that can accomplish their agenda. If they embraced all of Rep. Paul's ultra-conservative views, they would alienate a large population of social-justice, moderate conservatives. Ron Paul is the perfect candidate for a third-party organization. He would be able to build off of his youthful, conservative base into the future and perhaps inspire future leaders who share his views.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:59 AM
 
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Although I don't agree with a lot of Ron Paul's ideas, I do support and agree with this movement that has formed because of him. This country needs third, fourth and fifth parties. All the people of America need to feel that they have representation in our government and the two party system can not achieve that. Our current system also tends to reduce issues to just black and white, when in reality there are many shades of gray.
Heck, I work for the Ron Paul campaign and even I don't agree with everything the man says or stands for. Then again, I have never come across a single candidate in my entire life that I have agreed with 100%.

I don't see eye to eye with contemporary Republicans or Democrats but I support them both. I would even support having Libertarians, Communist, Socialist, Fascist, Constitutional, Greens, Pinks, Reds or Purple Parties on the ballot each election cycle.

I can drive to Best Buy and have a choice of no less than 6 brands of televisions. I can go to the shoe store and have no less than a dozen choices of shoes to buy. I can go car shopping and have a choice between a dozen different car manufactures. Yet, I only have a choice between this or that in who is the next leader of my country? To think that Americans have one more choice for their leader than the people of Iraq did under Saddam is not much of a choice in my view.
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