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Old 02-23-2008, 03:30 PM
 
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I voted for Obama in the primary because I thought he and Hillary had basically very similar policy proposals, but Obama seems more trustworthy and electable. The title is a very subjective question but I was just wondering what everyone thinks.
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Obama, him just gooder at talking.
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:39 PM
 
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Without getting into the specifics of their plans issue by issue... Obama is far more liberal and even on the fringe of the left with his voting record while Hillary is far more moderate.

According to the National Journal's 2007 ranking, Obama was the most liberal senator in America in 2007 with a composite liberal score of 95.5. Hillary was rated the 16th most liberal senator with a composite score of 82.8 judged by their senate voting record.
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:43 PM
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Location: Austin
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Obama is the most liberal senator (even more left that Sanders, a self proclaimed socialist).
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:22 PM
 
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Obama wins this easily -- he's most liberal.

Here's an article on where they both stand on Gun Control and Criminal Justice:
Where candidates stand on crime, death penalty

Here is a rundown of some of his more "interesting" votes:
Barack Obama Favors Early Release of Sex Offenders From Prison : Houston Indymedia

Here's another article on Obama's voting record:
Obama Record May Be Gold Mine For Critics, Eight Years As State Senator Were Full Of Controversial Votes, Including Abortion And Gun Control - CBS News

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Old 02-24-2008, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yeah, his votes on abortion make me shudder. Obviously, being a Democrat, it's not my primary voting issue but I do want to support a moderate approach. Obama voted against providing medical care for fetuses who survive an abortion. Good Lord, how COLD can you get?!
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Old 02-24-2008, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Obama revealed his very liberal agenda in last week's Houston speech. I had previously posted a thread on the breath-taking list of give-aways he was proposing. Apparently, Karl Rove was listening, too:

Obama's New Vulnerability - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120355939956381797.html - broken link)
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:39 AM
 
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Obama revealed his very liberal agenda in last week's Houston speech. I had previously posted a thread on the breath-taking list of give-aways he was proposing. Apparently, Karl Rove was listening, too:

Obama's New Vulnerability - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120355939956381797.html - broken link)
Good editorial. I hadn't seen that one yet.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:08 AM
 
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By Karl Rove, nonetheless! I'm still not convinced, though. His healthcare plan is more "centrist," for example, with smaller subsidies and no mandate. I'm actually hoping that I voted for the "most liberal" candidate but all the articles you guys have posted have mostly gone over the "hot button" type issues that don't have as much affect, I think. Like I think Obama is a little too pro-abortion but he won't have much control over that aspect of society as president.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:39 AM
 
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Like I think Obama is a little too pro-abortion but he won't have much control over that aspect of society as president.
That might be an example of an issue that will give him more problems as the media looks for more things to scrutinize him on. Obama has a great ability to alter social laws to a much more liberal viewpoint because during his presidency, 6 of the 9 supreme court justices will be over 70. So over an 8 year period, he will be appointing perhaps a majority on the court. He will also be signing into law initiatives that must pass a democratically controlled house and senate. I've personally always rather one party control congress while the other control the presidency with veto power for a more balanced, compromising government being the moderate that I am. Although many people for some reason prefer to have the same party in control so that more things get accomplished ... it's a matter of opinion I suppose.
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