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Old 02-22-2008, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I will do a write in since we have nobody worthwhile running. But the facts are that we do not elect the Presidents anyway. The powers that be pick and choose who they want and that is who it will be no matter what or who you vote for. There hasn't been a fair election in this country for well over a century now. You go ahead and think that what you are doing is going to make a difference though.
And who are these "powers that be" who select who will be president? Is there a smoke filled back room somewhere in New York or DC?
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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I also work the polls and work on campaigns. I do this because it is my hope that someday there will be good to come of it.

The question should be...why in the hell would any thinking person no know that the elections are rigged?
You claim the election process is totally rigged, yet you work on campaigns and vote. Sounds rather hypocritical to me.

I'm not saying voter fraud doesn't exist, but to claim every election in the past century has been fixed is over the top. Why do the individual candidates and parties spend millions to influence public opinion and sway voters if the election is already rigged?
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Old 02-22-2008, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Downtown Greensboro, NC
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For me, though I prefer Obama anyway, electability is definitely an issue.
I agree because no matter what the person stands for, if they dont get elected, then none of what they say they will accomplish will even matter. The other party's agenda wins and that mean no good healthcare at all.

Both Obama and Hillary basically have identical plans so what the most important thing to me is electibilty. Right now thats really the most important thing on the democrats side. Obama seems to edge out over Hillary.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Bridgetown, Ohio
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Zogby not withstanding, any of the three remaining major candidates (sorry Huckabee supporters) have a pretty good chance of winning.

If there is one thing we learned from this primary process is that the polling is a feudal endeavor.

Even so, at this point, I'd say that predicting who can or cannot win is akin to predicting the winner of the Super Bowl when in the middle of pre-season.
(or even after 16 games this year).
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:35 PM
 
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Zogby polls are a joke anymore if you look at their methodology.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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I have learned not to trust ANY polls. There is no way you can poll one thousand people and then say that's what one hundred million people are thinking.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:57 PM
 
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I have learned not to trust ANY polls. There is no way you can poll one thousand people and then say that's what one hundred million people are thinking.

Thank god I didn't take that statistics class or major in this area.

Now, can I have that thing you are smoking?


P.S---------- Zogby polls do suck these days.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:02 PM
 
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zogby also had obama winning new hampshire and we know how that turned out.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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An average of the polls (for whatever they are worth) shows Obama leading McCain nationally.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:34 PM
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Location: Pennsylvania
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Update:

McCain leads BOTH Hillary and Obama. He's viewed favorably by 61% of all voters.

McCain has edge over Obama, Hillary: Poll - Sify.com

Now that the RNC is getting all revved up, BHO will be trounced.
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