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Old 10-31-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Europeans elected Hitler and Mussolini. Europeans made Franco and Milosevic possible. Europeans had Lenin, Tito and Stalin. Europeans had the mass slaughters of World War I, World War II, the Russian Revolution, and the Yugoslavian Civil War all in the same century. Every European power of note, even little Belgium, had colonialist ambitions that proved ultimately ruinous to the colonizers and the indigenous people alike. Europe at the moment is financially disintegrating before our very eyes as they cling to the notion that a government can provide a cradle-to-grave welfare state without destroying its economy. As a result, Europe has, over the past 100 years, completely squandered its position in the world, going from supremely powerful to rapidly becoming an afterthought in world affairs.

Please explain to me how Europeans are smarter than Americans. And use apostrophes correctly as you do it.

They have learned from their mistakes. We have not only not learned from their mistakes, we seem to be headed towards an emulation of them. But beyond our rush for world domination, something the European empires of old, culminating with the Third Reich of World War Two have now since abandoned (and the subsequent disappearance of their colonial holdings) , we remain an insular and unworldly people ignorant of their past, and unlikely to learn from the lesson it serves. History is a tool for the living, one that many in this country wish you and others to remain ignorant of.

So many on the right cheered enthusiastically when Mitt Romney said he wished to cut funding for PBS. Anything that educates the masses is always under attack by Republicans, who wish us all to be as clueless as those who vote for them. The Dumbing Down of America is deliberate and calculated.

Fight the Power.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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They have learned from their mistakes. We have not only not learned from their mistakes, we seem to be headed towards an emulation of them. But beyond our rush for world domination, something the European empires of old, culminating with the Third Reich of World War Two have now since abandoned (and the subsequent disappearance of their colonial holdings) , we remain an insular and unworldly people ignorant of their past, and unlikely to learn from the lesson it serves. History is a tool for the living, one that many in this country wish you and others to remain ignorant of.

So many on the right cheered enthusiastically when Mitt Romney said he wished to cut finding for PBS. Anything that educates the masses is always under attack by Republicans, who wish us all to be as clueless as those who vote for them. The Dumbing Down of America is deliberate and calculated.

Fight the Power.
They didn't learn anything. They got their arses handed to em.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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They didn't learn anything. They got their arses handed to em.
No, you haven't learned anything. And millions more just like you.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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They have learned from their mistakes.
What exactly makes you think that?
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Pa
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They didn't learn anything. They got their arses handed to em.
If they learned so much then why did they need the US Military to be involved in Croatia? I would think the all knowing Europeans would have been able to clean up their own back yard.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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Clinton had to create his muslim state like every democrat president.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:57 PM
 
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No, you haven't learned anything. And millions more just like you.
The millions who have been slaughtered and murdered by those elitist Europeans didn't learn anything either. They're dead.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:59 PM
 
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Not surprised. Europeans are generally well educated and open minded.
Yes, they are. That's why they've come up with Marxism, Fascism, Leninism and Stalinism.
We sure should listen to what they have to say and do the opposite.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:07 PM
 
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They have learned from their mistakes. We have not only not learned from their mistakes, we seem to be headed towards an emulation of them. But beyond our rush for world domination, something the European empires of old, culminating with the Third Reich of World War Two have now since abandoned (and the subsequent disappearance of their colonial holdings) , we remain an insular and unworldly people ignorant of their past, and unlikely to learn from the lesson it serves. History is a tool for the living, one that many in this country wish you and others to remain ignorant of.

So many on the right cheered enthusiastically when Mitt Romney said he wished to cut funding for PBS. Anything that educates the masses is always under attack by Republicans, who wish us all to be as clueless as those who vote for them. The Dumbing Down of America is deliberate and calculated.

Fight the Power.
You know, you should read Barbara Tuchman's The Proud Tower. You'd find that Europeans were saying exactly that kind of self-congratulatory nonsense exactly a century ago. After all, no major war had been fought since the Prussians rogered France in 1870. That is, until Archduke Ferdinand was shot in Sarajevo. We all know what happened after that.

I mean, what a pile of baloney. Do you actually read the financial news, or does anything with numbers make your head hurt? Europe is teetering on the economic abyss. Holy crap, it is a fiasco over there. Spain has unemployment reaching 25%, numbers that make our Great Depression look like a small cashflow problem. France is teetering on the edge of chaos, as is Italy and Greece. All because these countries succumbed to the childlike notions of Keynesianism and the welfare state. And now they're paying for it.

What's more, our so-called 'rush for world domination' has a lot less to do with some kind of hegemonistic impulse on our part and more about our having to step into the vacuum left by the European powers to ensure some kind of peaceful world order. Go ahead and look at an entire 70 years of conflicts we've had to deal with, and you'll see Europe's failures as the main cause of most of them. World War II. The endless series of colonial wars that resulted when the British, French, Belgians, Dutch, Portuguese, Italians, Germans, and Spaniards all abandoned their overseas empires. Pakistan vs. India. Angola. Vietnam. Israel vs. the Arab World. Rwanda. The Sudan. Somalia. Not because they saw the errors of their ways, as you would like to believe, but because they could no longer bear the economic and military costs of sustaining empire. So all those states bugged out of Africa and Asia leaving behind ill-prepared, newly-independent states. And we've had to deal with, for better or worse.

Jeez, I wish you'd pick up a history book. Oh, and when the financial balloon finally goes up over there, don't think for a skinny minute you won't see them revert to their old atavistic ways. Nationalist right-wing parties are already beginning to fire up in places like Greece and Italy.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:11 PM
 
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If Europe wants Obama then thats all the more reason to choose the other guy.
Leader of Venezuela wants him also...........Hugo Chavez, the socialist president of Venezuela, told state television: "I hope this doesn't harm Obama, but if I was from the United States, I'd vote for Obama."
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