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Old 06-06-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I mean the way the Democrats and the MSM are telling it is if there are no wealthy Democrats. What about Oprah, David Geffen, Soros, etc.? So rich people supported Walker's recall defense, big deal. Why couldn't the Democrats get their wealthy supporters to support the Dem candidate?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/us...ration.html?hp
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The labor movement had forced the recall by directing a wave of anger against Mr. Walker’s bid to end collective bargaining for state workers. But Mr. Walker benefitted from a surge in contributions from wealthy conservative donors from around the country who raised more than $30 million to Mr. Barrett’s $4 million.

“The fact that you’ve got a handful of self-interested billionaires who are trying to leverage their money across the country,” said David Axelrod, Mr. Obama’s senior campaign strategist, said in an interview. “Does that concern me? Of course that concerns me.”

Mr. Obama’s Wisconsin state director, Tripp Wellde, blamed what he called “the flood of secret and corporate money spent on behalf of Scott Walker” for fueling a “politics of division” in the state that overwhelmed Mr. Barrett.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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I read 3 newspapers a day and usually watch some CNN and listen to NPR. I don't recall ever hearing that there are no rich Democrats. Never read it or heard it, so what the hell are you talking about?

Super PAC's are horrible. We should have visibility to those who are giving money into the campaigns.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Reporters from the NY Times, Washington Post, pick any Wisconsin newspaper, CNN and NPR gather in a room. One asks the crowd- raise your hand if you know anyone that voted for Walker. No hands raise. Person asks 'so how did this guy get elected.'
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I read 3 newspapers a day and usually watch some CNN and listen to NPR. I don't recall ever hearing that there are no rich Democrats. Never read it or heard it, so what the hell are you talking about?

Super PAC's are horrible. We should have visibility to those who are giving money into the campaigns.
The OP is responding to all of the newspaper stories that in post election analysis say the reason Walker won is because he had more money coming in from a lot of places and the OP wants to know why rich Democrats didn't pony up for Barrett.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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Because government is bad for big business and the GOP thinks that the government should let business go unchecked (well, not entirely, but compared to the Dems anyway). Hence, the biggest corporations form the biggest super PACs to back GOP candidates. Yeah, Oprah's got money, but she don't got AT&T money.
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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AT&T? Look to the Koch brothers. They have spent billions in their causes, have billions left, and are prepared to spend billions more.

Money did not decide the recall election. Voter's minds were made up long before election day on both sides.
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: west mich
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I mean the way the Democrats and the MSM are telling it is if there are no wealthy Democrats. What about Oprah, David Geffen, Soros, etc.? So rich people supported Walker's recall defense, big deal. Why couldn't the Democrats get their wealthy supporters to support the Dem candidate?
Because
* The whole repub money-dependent super pac philosophy is corrupting our entire election process. Only the totality of repubs like it (since they get more from their philosophical brethren).
* The Dems as a party, unlike repubs, are not in jack-booted lockstep concerning their support for this system of govt.
The repubs get much more support from corporate fascist interests, both inside and outside, than the Democrats. Good for you perhaps, but not for America as it should be, or once was.

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Old 06-10-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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The OP is responding to all of the newspaper stories that in post election analysis say the reason Walker won is because he had more money coming in from a lot of places and the OP wants to know why rich Democrats didn't pony up for Barrett.
That makes sense. Why the **** didn't he say that then? I wish people would think before they start a thread.

I haven't looked at the issue and thus I won't offer an opinion. I'm guessing that there are far more corporate interests in WI who care than there are union members. The influence of money in a campaign is often overrated.

In either case, SPAC's are horrible for this country. Foreign terrorist groups can use them to funnel money into the political process for example. Not a good thing and this shifts more power to businesses away from voters.
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I mean the way the Democrats and the MSM are telling it is if there are no wealthy Democrats. What about Oprah, David Geffen, Soros, etc.? So rich people supported Walker's recall defense, big deal. Why couldn't the Democrats get their wealthy supporters to support the Dem candidate?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/us...ration.html?hp
The dem problem is some of their traditional donors are holding out. That obama Super-Pac is a good example.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I've said this before: Dems give money for a cause; Repub give me as an investment. Those two motivations are going to lead to drastically different giving levels.
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