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Old 11-30-2011, 10:50 PM
 
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2012 IS GOING TO BE A BAD YEAR FOR BARRY

Occupy Protesters Mobilize for Obama's Visit - NYTimes.com
10:06 p.m. | Updated More than 100 Occupy Wall Street protesters marched to a Midtown hotel on Wednesday night to protest a fund-raising event for President Obama.

Escorted by police vehicles as they helped snarl traffic across the Times Square area, beginning at Bryant Park, the group settled in front of barricades on the southwest corner of 53rd Street and Seventh Avenue, in view of the Sheraton hotel at which Mr. Obama was expected to appear by 9 p.m.

Demonstrators held signs that leveled some of the Occupy protest’s most pointed criticism to date of the president. “Obama is a corporate puppet,” one said. “War crimes must be stopped, no matter who does them,” read another, beside head shots of President George W. Bush and President Obama.

One man, wearing a mask of the Obama's face and holding a cigar, carried a sign that read, “I sold out!”

Ben Campbell, 28, one of the march’s organizers, said he hoped to prove to skeptics of the protests that the demonstrators were political critics of equal opportunity.

“President Obama is coming to town solely to raise money from the richest of the rich,” Mr. Campbell said.
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Old 11-30-2011, 11:17 PM
 
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The Occupy movement ARE NOT Obama's base, and I say this as a liberal who protested the Iraq war in college. These Occupy loons are more like fringe Ron Paul supporters intermixed with homeless vagrants, rabid anti-Semites, and drug addicts. This is the Green Party/libertarian base. And the fact that only 100 showed up (in a liberal city of 8 million) should tell you something.
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Old 11-30-2011, 11:55 PM
 
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The Occupy movement ARE NOT Obama's base, and I say this as a liberal who protested the Iraq war in college. These Occupy loons are more like fringe Ron Paul supporters intermixed with homeless vagrants, rabid anti-Semites, and drug addicts. This is the Green Party/libertarian base. And the fact that only 100 showed up (in a liberal city of 8 million) should tell you something.
Obama base overlap with the OWS movement.
There are a number of events listed by members of myBO, the Obama social network, that indicate support for Occupy groups.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Obama base overlap with the OWS movement.
There are a number of events listed by members of myBO, the Obama social network, that indicate support for Occupy groups.
Believe it or not, Republicans are out there in the streets, too.

But even so, how does this translate into Obama's base turning against him?

It is possible to support both the Occupy movement and Obama at the same time. The Occupiers are simply sick and tired of the D.C. FUBAR, and they want it stopped. Which party changes things up doesn't matter to them. If Democrats are beginning to support them, the Republicans would be wise to do the same.

If anything the Occupiers are voicing the biggest complaints we all have against things in Congress as they are now. For sure, the movement is trashy, unorganized, and sloppy right now, but so was the Tea party at first. Occupy may sharpen up all it's tactics and demands over this winter, and could become an important force in American politics, just as the Tea Party did. The distance between the Tea Party's demands and the Occupy demands is only about 1/2" apart when you read them on paper.

The physical differences aren't that much different in the effect they have on others, either. The Tea Party loved to dress up in silly costumes and wave guns around, and the Occupiers all look like street bums and throw bricks around... equally extreme appearance, same tactics and noise, leading to the same public interest.

if the old Geezers in the Tea Party were young again, I think they might look more like Occupiers. If the Occupiers were old, they might look like the Teabaggers.
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The Occupy movement ARE NOT Obama's base, and I say this as a liberal who protested the Iraq war in college. These Occupy loons are more like fringe Ron Paul supporters intermixed with homeless vagrants, rabid anti-Semites, and drug addicts. This is the Green Party/libertarian base. And the fact that only 100 showed up (in a liberal city of 8 million) should tell you something.
OK, now I've heard it all. OWS is libertarian??? I don't know what they are, but I do know that they are not libertarian.
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:26 PM
 
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2012 IS GOING TO BE A BAD YEAR FOR BARRY

Occupy Protesters Mobilize for Obama's Visit - NYTimes.com
10:06 p.m. | Updated More than 100 Occupy Wall Street protesters marched to a Midtown hotel on Wednesday night to protest a fund-raising event for President Obama.

Escorted by police vehicles as they helped snarl traffic across the Times Square area, beginning at Bryant Park, the group settled in front of barricades on the southwest corner of 53rd Street and Seventh Avenue, in view of the Sheraton hotel at which Mr. Obama was expected to appear by 9 p.m.

Demonstrators held signs that leveled some of the Occupy protest’s most pointed criticism to date of the president. “Obama is a corporate puppet,” one said. “War crimes must be stopped, no matter who does them,” read another, beside head shots of President George W. Bush and President Obama.

One man, wearing a mask of the Obama's face and holding a cigar, carried a sign that read, “I sold out!”

Ben Campbell, 28, one of the march’s organizers, said he hoped to prove to skeptics of the protests that the demonstrators were political critics of equal opportunity.

“President Obama is coming to town solely to raise money from the richest of the rich,” Mr. Campbell said.
I suppose if you keep telling yourself that over and over again while simultaneously creating new screen names, you can live in a fantasy world where unicorns dance with dragons and Republicans have a shot to win the general election in 2012.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Obama's base is not leaving him. They're just biding their time and preparing for the general campaign.

While some liberal sites are watching OWS, there is no big Democratic support for the movement, and that visit came and went with no big ripples. Most Democrats are watching OWS with the same detachment that most Republicans have. Both parties are mostly just looking on, waiting to see what, if anything, the OWS will produce.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:37 PM
 
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The Occupy movement ARE NOT Obama's base, and I say this as a liberal who protested the Iraq war in college. These Occupy loons are more like fringe Ron Paul supporters intermixed with homeless vagrants, rabid anti-Semites, and drug addicts. This is the Green Party/libertarian base. And the fact that only 100 showed up (in a liberal city of 8 million) should tell you something.
Try again. There is nothing Libertarian about the OWS movement.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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2012 IS GOING TO BE A BAD YEAR FOR BARRY

Occupy Protesters Mobilize for Obama's Visit - NYTimes.com
10:06 p.m. | Updated More than 100 Occupy Wall Street protesters marched to a Midtown hotel on Wednesday night to protest a fund-raising event for President Obama.

Escorted by police vehicles as they helped snarl traffic across the Times Square area, beginning at Bryant Park, the group settled in front of barricades on the southwest corner of 53rd Street and Seventh Avenue, in view of the Sheraton hotel at which Mr. Obama was expected to appear by 9 p.m.

Demonstrators held signs that leveled some of the Occupy protest’s most pointed criticism to date of the president. “Obama is a corporate puppet,” one said. “War crimes must be stopped, no matter who does them,” read another, beside head shots of President George W. Bush and President Obama.

One man, wearing a mask of the Obama's face and holding a cigar, carried a sign that read, “I sold out!”

Ben Campbell, 28, one of the march’s organizers, said he hoped to prove to skeptics of the protests that the demonstrators were political critics of equal opportunity.

“President Obama is coming to town solely to raise money from the richest of the rich,” Mr. Campbell said.
You cite 100 OWS folks as Obama's base? Laughable. Three generations of my family continue to be Obama's base.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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The Occupy movement ARE NOT Obama's base, and I say this as a liberal who protested the Iraq war in college. These Occupy loons are more like fringe Ron Paul supporters intermixed with homeless vagrants, rabid anti-Semites, and drug addicts. This is the Green Party/libertarian base. And the fact that only 100 showed up (in a liberal city of 8 million) should tell you something.
Wrong. Occupy VT was middle class Americans who lost homes and jobs. The spin will not sell.

Most Indeps who voted Obama in 2008 are voting elsewhere bcs Obama has sold out to Wall Street and everyone with an education knows both Repugs and Dems have.

Arent u the same poster on p and OC who said OWS chaos will drive people to vote repub. sell crazy somewhere else, please.
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