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Old 06-13-2011, 04:53 PM
 
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Let's say one of these two wins the GOP Nomination for President.

We know in addition to Independents being frustrated with Obama and the Democrats, one of the biggest problems in the 2010 Elections for the the Democrats was that their party were very disappointed with the lack of change, so alot of them stayed home while the right was very energized.

If Bachmann or Palin got the nomination, what are the chances the Democrats make gains in Congress in 2012? Regardless of the disappointment for Obama and the Democrats, I imagine that the thought of one of these two* would bring out the liberals, center leftists and Independents who stayed at home in 2010. The Independents aren't as predictable, but the Democrats, while out at the polls, would more than likely vote for their parties candidates.

(*Or imagine a Palin/Bachmann ticket. That would bring them out for sure.)
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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Bachmann/Palin in any sort of combination would definitely bring out the Independents in 2012, to vote again for Obama. Independents are highly suspicious of Palin/Bachmann or anything that appears extreme. They may be frustrated by Obama/Democrats, but not that frustrated.

One thing you have to understand about voter behavior is that even if a voter disapproves of a candidate/elected official, they may disapprove even more to the other guy. So they vote to keep what they perceive to be the lesser of two evils.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:56 AM
 
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Bachmann/Palin in any sort of combination would definitely bring out the Independents in 2012, to vote again for Obama. Independents are highly suspicious of Palin/Bachmann or anything that appears extreme. They may be frustrated by Obama/Democrats, but not that frustrated.

One thing you have to understand about voter behavior is that even if a voter disapproves of a candidate/elected official, they may disapprove even more to the other guy. So they vote to keep what they perceive to be the lesser of two evils.
BAchmann and Palin would never be on the same ticket anymore than Obama and Hillary.

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Old 06-14-2011, 09:12 PM
 
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Ronald Reagan won 49 states. Only Palin could break that record and ensure Obama won all 50!
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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Bachmann/Cain would be sweet. We would get the flat tax, and eliminate the IRS. Wonder how they feel about getting rid of the labor relations board.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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I'd be all for Bachmann in 2012. I don't think independents would flock to Obama if she ran.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:22 PM
 
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Maybe Perry/Bachmann. I like em both.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:25 PM
 
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Perry, never. I'd never vote for someone who had an innocent person executed. Plus, he's a carbon copy of Bush.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:28 PM
 
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BAchmann and Palin would never be on the same ticket anymore than Obama and Hillary.

NIta
I agree with you on this. Far too much ego involved. These particular candidates all want to be President, not VP.
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:22 AM
 
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Let's say one of these two wins the GOP Nomination for President.

We know in addition to Independents being frustrated with Obama and the Democrats, one of the biggest problems in the 2010 Elections for the the Democrats was that their party were very disappointed with the lack of change, so alot of them stayed home while the right was very energized.

If Bachmann or Palin got the nomination, what are the chances the Democrats make gains in Congress in 2012? Regardless of the disappointment for Obama and the Democrats, I imagine that the thought of one of these two* would bring out the liberals, center leftists and Independents who stayed at home in 2010. The Independents aren't as predictable, but the Democrats, while out at the polls, would more than likely vote for their parties candidates.

(*Or imagine a Palin/Bachmann ticket. That would bring them out for sure.)
They have no more chance of beating the great President Obama than a ticket consisting of the Pillsbury Doughboy and Yosemite Sam. Keep dreaming...
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