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Old 10-13-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Winter Weather Forecast 2011-2012 | Another extreme winter for many parts of the US | Ski and Snowboard Blog

According to this article, cooling in the pacific, along with low solar sunspot activity, and earths position in our 12-year cycle are all combining to suggest we may be facing some of the coldest winters in 40 years.
Given the weak state of the economy to begin with, the suggestion of the increased burden of higher fuel oil prices, loss of food crops, and power disruptions due to snowstorms is not good news.
How will an unusually cold and stormy winter affect you in your part of the country?
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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I don't think it will be anything we haven't seen before,


If the temps are to be below average then the snow fall will also be less than a average.

cold winters= less snow
warmer winters = more snow

The temp goes up when it snows then after the storm the clouds clear and the temps fall.
It warms up to snow.

Yes when it gets really cold the moisture is squeezed out of the air resulting in flurries.
but flurries don't make for a above average snow fall.



The effects on economy will be good as folks will be buying fuel, electricity, blankets, space heaters, shovels, snow-blowers, etc etc. A warm winter will result in fewer sales of these items.
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Our weather models consider all of these factors and are currently showing a particularly harsh winter for many parts of the US during 2011-2012. Large parts of Central and North America will face below average temperatures with above average snowfall throughout this winter, with temperatures in many Eastern and Western parts also showing as below average with above average snowfall amounts."



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Old 10-13-2011, 08:16 AM
 
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Winter Weather Forecast 2011-2012 | Another extreme winter for many parts of the US | Ski and Snowboard Blog

According to this article, cooling in the pacific, along with low solar sunspot activity, and earths position in our 12-year cycle are all combining to suggest we may be facing some of the coldest winters in 40 years.
Given the weak state of the economy to begin with, the suggestion of the increased burden of higher fuel oil prices, loss of food crops, and power disruptions due to snowstorms is not good news.
How will an unusually cold and stormy winter affect you in your part of the country?
It already sucks. We had snow on the 6th of October. The average first snow is Nov 1st. Hard on the homeless.
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Old 10-13-2011, 08:17 AM
 
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cold winters= less snow
warmer winters = more snow
Not where I'm at cold= more snow Warm = rain.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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How will an unusually cold and stormy winter affect you in your part of the country?
It will cause more "utility foreclosures." When people have their utilities cut off for non-payment and can't scrape enough money together for a payment plan, or who default on a payment plan (which they are in for non-payment) they'll just walk away from the mortgages (like they did a few years ago). No point sitting in a 4,400 sq ft McMansion with no electricity and no heat.

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The effects on economy will be good as folks will be buying fuel, electricity, blankets, space heaters, shovels, snow-blowers, etc etc.
The effects on the economy will NOT be good. Natural gas prices naturally spike to meet demand and that will suck up disposable income which is practically nonexsistant. A long winter means more more heating and that means higher natural gas prices and higher utility bills.

Natural gas futures for November are down, even though usage increased by both residential and commercial customers, but Winter isn't here yet.
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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What about Texas? It will be very cold?
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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It already sucks. We had snow on the 6th of October. The average first snow is Nov 1st. Hard on the homeless.
Snow in October?? Where are you?
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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What about Texas? It will be very cold?
I'm not seeing that in the model. Some preliminary outlooks say temps will be average for Texas with continued below average precipitation.
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:38 PM
 
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I'm moving to the Fl Keys in Dec till it warms up.
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Temperatures were well above average in September and so far this month so I am not even remotely convinced yet.
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