01-28-2008, 07:47 PM
Location: Fondren SW Yo
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Note: While this post was originally authored for the Dallas forum... it is easy to relate what is stated to any relocation one might contemplate... so just replace the city names with those you are thinking of relocating from and to... it makes some very wise points to ponder!
While researching whether or not to move to Dallas from California last year, I made good use of this forum and received mostly accurate, good advice. It's a shame that on many of these types of posts it devolves in to a flame fest until Da Jammer gently closes and locks the thread.
The following are just some random thoughts in no particular order about how prospective new DFW residents can make the most of this forum. Please don't flame me or make it a huge argument, these are just my opinions.
For the record just so you know where I am coming from, I am a married mid-30's parent of a baby, religious (not Christian), politically and socially conservative with the occasional wild libertarian streak. I grew up in San Diego, lived in L.A. before moving here, went to college in the SF Bay Area and have also lived in Florida, Ohio and Washington, DC.
1.) Everything you read here is an opinion. Take everything everyone posts (including this post) with a grain of salt. Yes, I know some info you find will be fact based, but as a rule this is not a forum for experts on anything other than their own opinion.
2.) Asking general questions like, "tell me about the difference between City X and Dallas" is useless. We're all individuals and what I like may not appeal to you. So, that leads me to suggest that you....
3.) Be Specific! Knowing your marital status, occupation, politics, what you like about a city, what you don't like about a city, etc. is the only way to give an opinion that might be on an apples to apples level. We're all anonymous here so without revealing personal information that could identify you, try to paint an accurate picture of who you are and what you want. This may require you to....
4.) Know what you are looking for before you "seriously" consider moving here (or anywhere for that matter). What's important to you? What can you live with and what can't you live without? How many people here who are miserable didn't do enough research on the area before choosing to come here? How many thought that low cost housing or whatever is a panacea that will change the problems in their lives? But, with that said....
5.) It's ok to not like Dallas and decide this place is not for you! Yes there are lots of homers like me who put stickers on their car that read "I Wasn't Born In Texas but I Got Here As Soon As I Could." However plenty of people don't like it here for good reasons. It's really freakin' hot in the summer. The pace of life is slower than other parts of the country like Southern California. It's actually
more expensive to live here than many parts of the midwest or the south. Many of the suburbs are as politically conservative as the suburbs of San Francisco are politically liberal. I would only say that when reading a person's postings who isn't happy here that you...
6.) Take in to account what they are not saying or reveal in later posts. At least one of the anti-Dallas posters is in an unfortunate situation where they chose a nasty part of town and is in what appears to be a somewhat unhappy family situation. I would hate it here if that was me but that's not a reason to warn people away from the region as a whole. And as far as those of us who do write all sorts of nice things about Dallas...
7. It's ok to drink the Kool-Aid and be happy here! We did our due diligence, thought long and hard about where wanted to settle down, came to grips with what we would miss about California and decided to just suck it up when it came to the less great things about the area (for us it's the heat). And you know what? We love it here, have embraced it and don't regret moving here one bit.
Anywhoo, best of luck to everyone out there reading, lurking and posting about your decision to move here. And if you do end up coming, welcome Y'all!
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01-29-2008, 12:59 AM
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You always give good, solid advice, rb4browns. I, for one, appreciate it, and agree 100% with this post. Again, great advice. :-)
01-29-2008, 06:59 AM
Location: The Big D
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6.) Take in to account what they are not saying or reveal in later posts. At least one of the anti-Dallas posters is in an unfortunate situation where they chose a nasty part of town and is in what appears to be a somewhat unhappy family situation. I would hate it here if that was me but that's not a reason to warn people away from the region as a whole. And as far as those of us who do write all sorts of nice things about Dallas...
Good thoughts.
I'll add to the one above. I mentioned it in another thread as there have been some other posters that have moved here from other states and then "hated it" to no end and continue to bash Texas down to no end........ after reading some of their other posts in OTHER areas (not in the Texas forums) one can find there are other factors that are causing a lot of the problems.
1. If you are ALREADY in an unhappy marriage or family situation and have even thought about divorce where you currently live..... moving half way across the country away from all friends and family is NOT going to help in the least.
2. If your not a real "people person" and find it hard to get out of your shell, comfort zone, box, etc then moving to place you know NO ONE is not going to be fun IF you don't try to change YOURSELF first to MAKE yourself get out and meet others.
3. If your living w/ relatives or close by them that they are helping in raising your young children it is not going to matter where you move if you lose that and your used to it and dependent upon it for "personal survival".
Any place can be "paradise" but when you have personal baggage that is already weighing you down and you move away from EVERYTHING familiar and to a place that you don't know a single soul......... it can be hell. Sure I'd LOVE to move to a place like a tropical island or Cabo or something........ I LOVE to go and stay at those places for a month at a time and I'm perfectly fine. But I would HATE it if I were there for the longhaul and had left all of my family and friends back home. Granted I'm more of a people person and I do get out on my own and explore so that does give me a leg up. It is difficult to adjust no matter WHERE one moves to and that needs to be considered. Even from reading some of the nay sayers of Texas posts AFTER they have left and moved back to their home and "paradise" they still have a rocky personal relationship. So it can not all be blamed on Texas.
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01-29-2008, 07:51 AM
Location: North Dallas
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What a REALLY, REALLY thoughtful post! We heart you.
01-29-2008, 07:58 AM
Location: Allen, Texas
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ITA especially with regards to the social/personal situation. It's like having a baby to save a bad marriage.
01-29-2008, 08:31 AM
Location: Dallas TX & AL Gulf Coast
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Whereever you go... there you are!
01-29-2008, 01:09 PM
Location: The Big D
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Whereever you go... there you are!
Exactly. The personal problems one may be having are not going to stay in the old locale but will follow. If you can honestly say to yourself any of the postings below then moving IS NOT A WISE DECISION! IF it is ONLY for getting into an area of lower real estate or something like that.
1. "Okay, I have been contemplating a divorce, on and off, now for 2 years.
How do you know when it's the last straw. I'm scared because I don't really have any family and I have no on to turn to. I'm in a small town now (
deleted ) and I don't know how to get the best lawyers and all. I'm sick of it and I want out but I'm too scared to do anything about it. I have a couple of "last straws" and I should of gotten out of it earlier but I stayed. "
2. "But what I wanted to tell you is this - I may be single in the near future too!!! You want to be back in CA, I'm moving back to CA tomorrow (movers are here as we speak). "
3. "Well, I am not sure what I'm going to do about the marriage yet. We are getting along, but a lot of times I just keep things to myself to keep the peace. "
4. "I don't like people all that much"
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01-29-2008, 10:07 PM
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Funny this should come up.
Five years ago, if we had contemplated a move from So Cal to Texas, I would have said NO WAY. I wasn't leaving my family with this man I'm married to.
Fast forward to now...and we are stronger than we've ever been, which is part of the reason I think this is happening now. He and my kids are my family - I can go anywhere if they're with me.
I also have the advantage that we are all four "people" persons, and will make friends quickly. We also have friends who live there already.
Thank you for pointing this stuff out, y'all. My brain is so full of all the possibilities (whether we stay or go) that it helps to have a clear voice of reason.
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I know, I moved here from Louisiana, away from all my family and had some difficulty adjusting. I am absolutely a people person, but it was still really different. Traffic for one--I thought I would lose my mind! But these days, I'm drinking (or in most cases selling) the koolaid!
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moving back to texas
thanks so much for your input. Our for sale sign in So.Cali just went up this morning and I admit altho a native I have been nervous about moving back to texas after being out of the south for 13years. To know that someone else from here had the same thots about the weather but is surviving and thriving in Tx. made me feel better. thanks so much
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Fast forward to now...and we are stronger than we've ever been, which is part of the reason I think this is happening now. He and my kids are my family - I can go anywhere if they're with me.
moving back to texas
