09-21-2010, 09:33 AM
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Hi everyone, I may be getting a job in Broomfield. Moving from Southwestern Michigan. I recently spent a week in Colorado Springs and absolutely loved it out there. Anywhere I went there was trails and mountains. But since I now have a job offer in Broomfield I need to find a location that fits that would be closer, more like a 20-30 minute commute. I have a very active lifestyle and I want to be near the mountains and would like to be within a 5-10 minute drive of trails I can run on or hike. Denver is too big of a city for me and too far from the mountains. As for price range, I am used to Michigan where you can get a pretty nice house for about $175,000 - $200,000 (at least nice in my terms and as much as I would want). I am 30 years old, married and plan to start a family in the near future so good schools would be a nice benefit too.
What do you guys suggest for places that would fit? Is there areas around there that are near the mountains with all kinds of hiking and running trails like I saw in Colorado Springs?
To sum things up...
-Work in Broomfield
-live near hiking and running trails in the mountains (5-10 minutes)
-live within 20-30 minute commute
-not super expensive
-married and going to start a family
Thank you for any help! It will be much appreciated.
09-21-2010, 01:30 PM
Location: Del Norte NM
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I am used to Michigan where you can get a pretty nice house for about $175,000 - $200,000 (at least nice in my terms and as much as I would want). I am 30 years old, married and plan to start a family in the near future so good schools would be a nice benefit too.
You won't be able to find that in Broomfield even in the down economy according to my friend who currently lives in Westminster. He wanted to move his family up there from where he was at because his wife got held up at gun point in their driveway. Fixer-uppers start at $250K. Broomfield, however, is one of the nicer places to live in the spraw blob. Although, some of my friends who used to live there in the 90's moved up to Fredrick. I don't know why. I used to live in Fort Collins and commuted to downtown Denver everyday. Back then the road was two-laned both ways. It took me close to an hour to get to the bus stop at 120th and Wagon Wheel. Now it is three-laned both ways to exit 252. I don't know how much time that shaves off a commute.
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remy240
What do you guys suggest for places that would fit? Is there areas around there that are near the mountains with all kinds of hiking and running trails like I saw in Colorado Springs?
To sum things up...
-Work in Broomfield
-live near hiking and running trails in the mountains (5-10 minutes)
-live within 20-30 minute commute
-not super expensive
-married and going to start a family
Thank you for any help! It will be much appreciated.
You'll have to compromise something and raise your housing budget to get close to you target.
5 to 10 minutes to the hiking trails and mountains means living in either Evergreen or Estes Park or Boulder and they are much further of a commute than 30 minutes and quite expensive. You're probably looking at an hour or so from either place. Boulder might be less of a commute but not by much.
There's no such thing as not super expensive when comparing Colorado to Michigan I am told. A friend of mine in Louisiana tells me that his mom's house in Michigan is worth less than half of what it would be down there. And, that's Louisiana, which is relatively cheap!
Anyplace in the sprawl-blob is a good place to raise a family except maybe for the area in Westminster my friend lives and I am told parts of Commerce City aren't that great either. I was surprised that happened to my friend's spouse. Other than that, Colorado is a pretty safe place to be. My recommendation would be Longmont. It has some running trails but it's not 10 minutes close to the mountains. It is affordable and you can find a starter home in your price range there.
09-22-2010, 11:12 AM
Location: Just south of Denver since 1989
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I'd start my search in Broomfield. There are running trails and maybe a 10 minute commute to work. A 20 minute drive to Boulder for hiking the Flat Irons. 30 minutes to Golden, 40 to Evergreen.
If you are thinking of starting a family, what will your life be like if you are gone 10 hours a day? How would that differ if you were gone only 8.5 hours?
09-23-2010, 08:26 PM
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Boulder, if you can
To be close to mountains and some great hiking trails, Boulder would be your best choice. It is roughly 20 miles to Broomfield via fairly heavily travelled, but otherwise easy, US 36. The only real problem with such a plan is cost, with housing in Boulder being quite expensive.
Nevertheless, Boulder still offers the best options in mountain hiking near Broomfield. With that as a consideration, indeed your goal, then you might consider all possibilities more or less between Broomfield and Boulder. Towns just to the northwest of Broomfield, such as Lafayette and Louisvillle, might work for you. People working in Boulder live in these communities for precisely that reason, their lower cost, and they may otherwise prove nice enough. Broomfield itself is another consideration. An advantage would be that much less of a commute to work, which is no small thing. It could well be that it enjoys some perfectly nice walking paths.
However none of these options, save Boulder, will put you 5-10 minutes from the tailhead of a mountain path. Even from Broomfield, it would not be overly onerous, and you might possibly find yourself there in 30 minutes or less. Although at times looking for a place to park. In certain areas of Boulder you could dispense with that, just walk out your door and literally be on the trail in 5 minutes. Proximity matters in such things. The easy hike you would make from out your door might well be delayed for another time when considering the drive from farther away.
Thus the trade-offs, and what one values more. But in choosing Colorado you've moved just that much closer to such a reality, if in nothing else the consideration that real estate will cost more than in Michigan.
09-25-2010, 10:53 AM
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Have you visited the area yet? The reason I ask is that almost every suburb has plenty of walking and biking trails. I like to suggest Broomfield (where I live) to people because of its proximity to Denver and Boulder. Its a good location to feel out the area. You might find yourself happy to be midway between Denver and Boulder. When we first moved here we wanted to be closer to Boulder and the mountain trails but now we find we are spending more and more time in Denver. We take advantage of our local trails and open space on the weekdays and head out to the mountains on the weekends. I disagree with the person who said you can't find a house in Broomfield for under 250k. Yes a house under 200k will probably need work but the cosmetic kind, most of the housing is mid 80's and newer.
09-25-2010, 01:00 PM
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There is actually a fair subset of housing in Broomfield older than mid-80s, and some of this "cosmetic" stuff costs a lot of money. Still, I agree that looking in Broomfield first would be the wisest course of action. To be 5-10 min. from the mountain trails would mean west Boulder, for sure, and it's pricey there compared even to the rest of Boulder.
I also disagree that Louisville and Lafayette are "nice enough" and that people live there primarily b/c they are cheaper than Boulder. Many people live in these communities b/c they like them and want to live in them. More than "nice enough", they are very nice on their own. Different than Boulder, but not inferior.
09-25-2010, 08:02 PM
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Thank you for all your responses.
Yeah I figured the housing was going to be a lot more expensive than what I am used to. But I am preparing myself for that shock.
I have not "visited" that area yet. I drove through it briefly. I was in Colorado Springs for a week and only made it in that area one day. And I didn't get to check out even close to everything I wanted to. I guess what I am trying to find is an area that is similar to Colorado Springs in a sense. The hotel I stayed in (basically on Centennial and Garden of the Gods Rd), was like 5 minutes from Garden of the Gods, and was about 15 minute drive to Gold Camp road, and Barr Trail. And it there was a bunch of other trails around there that I didn't get a chance to check out. Is there a large mountain trail network in the Boulder area? I drove thru boulder and ended up on a road through the mountains and all the pull-offs where just next to a huge cliff. It didn't look like any good hiking trails or running trails. I probably just went down a bad road for that and I did not even see a fraction of Boulder.
I would be ok with a 15-20 minute drive to the mountain trails, I don't have to be 5 minutes away. Its just a nice idea, but not the reality. I really would like a short drive to work, so maybe living in Broomfield would be a good option.
Choosing78 why are you spending more time in boulder? Is it because you like the big city life? I just ask because I actually don't like big cities and I don't see myself spending more time in Denver than the mountains.
09-25-2010, 09:09 PM
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My daughter lives near Garden of the Gods park, and there really isn't anything like that in Boulder County. Chautauqua is the closest thing to GOG in Boulder, and it really is not the same. You will have to contend with a different geography than COS.
09-25-2010, 09:24 PM
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I assume you meant Denver? We both have jobs in downtown Denver. So it's easy to meet up for happy hour/dinner etc. Also we're avid sports fans so this time of year we will be heading into Denver for hockey, basketball and football. Then there's other events like last week's great american beer fest, there's always some show or concert or something going on at the convention center. Don't get me wrong most weekends in the summer we were camping next to some 14er but we kind of enjoy having the best of both worlds. I like going to new spots so I think even if I ended up living next to a mountain I would end up driving somewhere else every weekend anyway to find some new place. Like I said before there are tons of running/biking trails all over. Boulder is sooo expensive. Even Louisville and Lafayette are expensive. Broomfield, Westminster and Arvada still have reasonably priced homes. Some people will say you can't touch a home under 250k, those are usually the people who couldn't fathom having to change flooring, paint a wall, not having granite countertops and "need" a 4 bed and 4 bath home for 2 people.
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Boulder hiking trails
There are a fair number of good mountain hiking trails accessed from the western edge of Boulder. You might begin with this page which describes their '
Open Space & Mountain Parks ,' as well as map of the trails (see link for 'Circle Hikes Guide' pdf). Also note that second page of this pdf provides brief descriptions of the various hikes, as well as elevation graphs:
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Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)