COVID-19 General Thread for Colorado Springs (Empire: university, safe, racism)

[Vision67]

BTW, here is the result of a similar experiment in Germany:

More Than 100 in Germany Found to Be Infected With Coronavirus After Church’s Services

Social distancing was observed and building disinfected for affected Sunday May 10 ceremonies, says senior member

https://www.wsj.com/articles/more-th...=hp_listb_pos2

"BERLIN—At least 107 people have been found to be infected with the new coronavirus after some of them attended Sunday services at a church in Frankfurt two weeks ago, according to German officials, highlighting the growing risk of new outbreaks of the virus as Germany loosens restrictions on public gatherings.

Local residents of Frankfurt, Germany’s financial center, and surrounding communities became infected during religious services held by the Evangelical Christian Baptist Congregation in Frankfurt on Sunday May 10, city and church officials said.

Kai Klose, the health minister for Hesse state, where Frankfurt, is located, said Sunday that local health officials had begun assembling lists of people who attended the church services and those who later came in contact with them.

“This situation shows how important it is—especially during loosening of restrictions, which is now possible again—that we remain vigilant and do not become careless,” Mr. Klose said. “The virus is still there and wants to spread.”

News of the outbreak in a faith congregation in Germany comes just days after President Trump called on state governors to reopen houses of worship, threatening to “override the governors” if they didn’t. “The ministers, pastors, rabbis, imams and other faith leaders will make sure their congregations are safe as they gather and pray,” Mr. Trump said.

The fresh outbreak after church services in Germany suggests that even adhering to strict social-distancing and hygiene measures may not stop infections when people begin to gather again in large groups.

Wladimir Pritzkau, a senior member of the Frankfurt evangelical Baptist congregation, stressed that the community had observed social distancing, maintaining the recommended distance of about six feet between individuals, and had disinfected the facilities.

He said services at the church had now been canceled for the foreseeable future and would be held only online.

The number of people infected rose dramatically from Saturday, when Rene Gottschalk, head of the Frankfurt Health Office, said that around 40 people had become infected following the church services.

News of the sharp increase in infections in Frankfurt comes after the city of Leer in northwestern Germany said 11 people had contracted Covid-19 after attending a private party at a local restaurant on May 15.

Local health officials ordered around 70 additional people to quarantine at home.

Robert Koch Institute, Germany’s leading virology institute, on Sunday morning reported 431 new confirmed infections over the previous 24 hours, raising the total number of confirmed infections in Germany to 178,281. A total of 8,247 people have died from Covid-19 infections in the country, the Institute said."

[hollyt00]

I miss going to Mass, singing in our choir, but I will not be going to Mass in the foreseeable future. Just ....doesn't make sense to me personally.

I sincerely would wish that we had an intellectual conversation in our society about what liberty and freedom mean. Just before schools closed in-person discussions, I had my history students write down what liberty meant to them. Most students felt there was a restriction on liberty and freedom: that our freedom and liberty hit up against the rights of others, which is something we should respect as human beings. It's a delicate balance, and it's not a clear-cut "I'll do what I want to do;" that's infantile and a very selfish view on liberty and freedom. It takes the individualistic American spirit, which we are proud of, emphasizes it, and runs roughshod over our community and society ideals. The idea of being an American has grown and morphed over the years, and has increasingly become more accepting of all faiths, races, and ideals, and it requires us to support each other. The whole partisan issue really saddens me because as an American History teacher, it's not what I see as how America is or should be.

I find it interesting, though. The idea of "opening the country" and "letting me go get my hair cut, dang it!" show privilege and selfishness for those who cannot protect themselves and others by staying at home. It strikes me as a belief that is not liberty, in the American sense, but instead in an anarchist belief of "I'll do what I want." I wonder why people don't necessarily call it as such. There was a church down in Mississippi that was burnt down in retaliation for holding services. There was graffiti on the ruins with the anarchist symbol. I wondered: who was the anarchist, though? And who were the vigilantes violently upholding the law?

I believe that there should be a balance; I go to the grocery store, etc, protected with a mask. This virus is not going to go anywhere anytime soon and as it is showing elsewhere, the lockdowns only work for a short time, and then the virus pops up again. I'm just being cautious but I'm not locking myself away. I look out for others and try to support others though I hate wearing a mask- I smile and after the fact realize no one can see me smiling. It annoys me! I'm healthy, but I think of those who need to go to the grocery store because they can't afford the delivery service.

Oooh I'm rambling. I'll leave now :P

[dr.frog]

When I read the news nowadays, I get so angry and depressed about the failure of our leadership -- not just Trump, but the governors and local officials who went along with the idea of "reopening" the country even though we had not met the criteria established by the public health officials for when it would be safe to do so. In particular, in "reopening" just in time for a big holiday weekend it was utterly predictable that people would travel and gather in large numbers for recreation rather than doing useful work that would help the economy. It seems like it would have made far more sense to make the first priority for "reopening" manufacturing facilities and a wider variety of retail establishments (clothing, furniture, etc), not merry-making and going to church.

[Vision67]

UCHealth begins COVID-19 and antibody testing for all

https://gazette.com/news/uchealth-be...fcb216091.html

"UCHealth has begun COVID-19 and antibody testing to anyone in Colorado.

The COVID-19 nasal swab, which determines if someone is sick with the virus, and an antibody test, a blood draw that determines whether someone has been exposed or had the virus in the past, will both be available for anyone who wants to be tested, a statement from UCHealth said.

Any UCHealth provider can order the tests for patients, or patients can select and schedule the tests through My Health Connection at uchealth.org, the statement said.

Nasal swab testing costs $85, and antibody testing costs $100, UCHealth said. Most insurance plans cover the cost of testing, but patients were encouraged to check with their insurance companies for coverage details.

“Many people have been interested in getting antibody tested because they want to know if they have been exposed to COVID-19 or they want to know if they are possibly immune to COVID-19," said UCHealth Chief Innovation Officer Dr. Richard Zane in the statement. "Unfortunately, for now, the only thing we can tell you is that if you have antibodies, you have been exposed to COVID-19. We cannot tell you yet whether you are immune to it."

Antibodies are molecules in the body that react to a foreign substance, UCHealth explained. The body produces them to fight an infection, and those antibodies can still be present in the body years after an infection.

Antibody testing sites have recently popped up around Colorado, as more residents decide they want to know if they contracted the disease. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned that many of the tests were not accurate, or approved by the administration.

UCHealth said the antibody test it uses were evaluated by the FDA and "far exceeded the agency's requirements for accuracy and specificity."

"Regardless of whether you have antibodies or not, you should not change your behavior," Zane said. "You should still physically distance from others, wear a mask if appropriate and wash your hands meticulously and often. It's very important that you do not change your behaviors because we don't know if the presence of antibodies will prevent you from potentially getting sick from COVID-19 again."

[Vision67]

LIST | Colorado Springs-area restaurants that have opened for dining

https://gazette.com/life/list-colora...0ffcb727f.html

"On Monday, May 25, Gov. Jared Polis allowed restaurants throughout Colorado to reopen dining rooms effective Wednesday — but operating under a strict set of guidelines to ensure safety, proper social distancing and to avoid coronavirus outbreaks. El Paso County restaurants were able to reopen their dining rooms May 24 due to an approved variance.

Restaurants that choose to reopen have to follow strict guidelines. Read more here. Check with restaurants for hours; most open restaurants will still be offering takeout and delivery as well. Many restaurants require reservations.

If you know of a restaurant that is open for in-restaurant dining that is not on the list, please email information to carlotta.olson@gazette.com.

Here are some eateries, distilleries and breweries, sort by zip codes, that are open for in-restaurant dining. As more restaurants open dining rooms, list will be updated.

• 80903


Bambino's Urban Pizzeria: 36 E. Bijou St., 630-8182, bambinosurbanpizzeria.com.

Borriello Brothers: 215 E. Platte Ave., 884-2020, borriellobrothers.com.

Bingo Burger: 132 N. Tejon St., 418-6223, bingoburger.com.

LIST | What's open, what's closed in Colorado amid coronavirus crisis
COLORADO SPRINGS NEWS
LIST | What's open, what's closed in Colorado amid coronavirus crisis
The Gazette
Bird Tree Cafe: 218 N. Tejon St., 422-9712, birdtreecafe.com.


Colorado Craft Tejon Street Social: 15 S. Tejon St., 428-3002, coloradocraftsocial.com.

Coquette's Bistro and Bakery: 616 S. Tejon St., 685-2420, coquettesbistro.com, will open for in-restaurant and patio dining starting June 2.

Fratelli Italian Restaurant: 575-9571, fratelliristorante.com, 124 N. Nevada Ave..

Four by Brother Luck: 321 N Tejon St., 434-2741, fourbybrotherluck.com, temporarily closed. Plans to open for in-restaurant dining soon. Check with restaurant for opening date.


Hafa Adai Fiesta Food: 109 E. Pikes Peak Ave., 308-5449, facebook.com/hafaadaifiestafood.

Jack Quinn's Irish Pub & Restaurant: 21 S. Tejon St., 385-0766, jackquinnspub.com.

Jose Muldoon's: 222 N. Tejon St., 636-2311, josemuldoons.com.


La Baguette Cafe: 117 E. Pikes Peak Ave., 636-5020.


Lucky Dumpling: 26 S. Wahsatch Ave., 418-5843, luckydumplingco.com.


MacKenzie's Chop House: 128 S. Tejon St., 635-3536, mackenzieschophouse.com.



Melting Pot: 30 E. Pikes Ave., Suite A, 385-0300, meltingpot.com/colorado-springs-co.

Panino's Restaurant: 604 N. Tejon St., 635-7452, paninosdowntown.com.

The Perk Downtown: 14 S. Tejon St., 635-1600, theperkdowntown.com.


Rasta Pasta: 405 N. Tejon St., 481-6888, rastapastacs.com.


The Skirted Heifer: 204 N. Tejon St., 635-3276; skirtedheifer.com.


Taste of Jerusalem: 15 E. Bijou St., 477-1777, tasteofjerusalemtogo.com.

T-Byrds Tacos and Tequila: 26 E. Kiowa St., 375-3376, tbyrdstacos.com.

Tony's: 326 N. Tejon St., Suite 1224, 228-6566, tonysdowntownbar.com.


The Ute & Yeti: 21 N. Tejon St., 634-0003, theuteandyeti.com.


The Warehouse: 25 W Cimarron St., 475-8880, thewarehouserestaurant.com.

The Wild Goose Meeting House: 401 N. Tejon St., 357-9020, wildgoosemeetinghouse.com.

Yoo Mae Japanese Restaurant: 21 E. Kiowa St., 473-8105, yoomae.com.

• 80904


Carnelian Coffee: 2428 W. Colorado Ave., 471-0789, facebook.com/carneliancoffeeco.

Colorado City Creamery: 2602 W. Colorado Ave., 634-1411, patio seating open.

Colorado Mountain Brewery: The Roundhouse, 600 S. 21st St., 466-8240; cmbrew.com.

Front Range BBQ: 2330 W. Colorado Ave., 632-2596, frbbq.com.

Garden of the Gods Market and Café: 410 S. 26th St., 471-2799, godsmarketandcafe.com.

Jake & Telly's Greek Taverna: 2616 W. Colorado Ave., 633-0406, jakeandtellys.com.

La Baguette Cafe: 2417 W. Colorado Ave., 577-4818.

The Mason Jar: 2925 W. Colorado Ave., 632-4820, masonjarcolorado.com.

Monse's Taste of El Salvador: 115 S. 25th St., 473-0877, monsestasteofelsalvador.online.

Mother Muff’s Kitchen and Spirits: 2432 W. Colorado Ave., 344-8727, mothermuffs.com, offering curbside pickup and gift certificates.

Paravicini's Italian Bistro: 2802 W. Colorado Ave., 471-8200, paravicinis.com, will open for in-restaurant dining starting June 6.

LIST | Colorado Springs-area online events
COLORADO SPRINGS NEWS
LIST | Colorado Springs-area online events
BY CARLOTTA OLSON The Gazette
Trails End Taproom: 3103 W. Colorado Ave., 428-0080, trailsendtaproom.com.

Thunder & Buttons II: 2415 W. Colorado Ave., 447-9888, thunderandbuttons.com.

• 80905

Billy's Pizza: 308 S. Eight St., Unit E, 630-3400, billysoldworldpizza.com.

Panino's Restaurant: 1721 S. Eight St., 635-1188, westsidepaninos.com.

Pepper Tree Restaurant: 888 W. Moreno Ave., 471-4888, peppertreecs.com.

• 80906

Fazoli's: 1790 E. Cheyenne Mountain Blvd., 579-7522, fazolis.com.

iTopit: 1610 E. Cheyenne Mountain Blvd., 576-8748, itopit.com.

Walter's Bistro: 146 E. Cheyenne Mountain Blvd., 630-0201, waltersbistro.com, will open for in-restaurant dining starting June 1.

• 80907

Big Train Family Restaurant: 808 Garden of the Gods Road, 473-8218, bigtrainrestaurant.com.

Caspian Cafe Mediterranean Bistro & Bar: 4375 Sinton Road, 528-1155, caspiancafe.com.

La Baguette Cafe: 4440 Chestnut St., 599-0686.

Red Leg Brewing: 4630 Forge Rd., 598-3776, redlegbrewing.com.

Storybook Brewing: 3121 A N. El Paso St., 633-6266, storybookbrewing.com.

• 80909

Black Bear Diner: 975 N. Academy Blvd., 314-3616, tinyurl.com/wh5maog.

HavanaGrill: 2165 Academy Blvd., 445-0776, havanagrillco.com.

Leon Gessi New York Pizza: 1806 Palmer Park Blvd., 635-1542, leongessipizza.com.

Perkins Restaurant & Bakery: 3295 E. Platte Ave., 633-8962, tinyurl.com/wt8bz5n.

Single Barrel Eatery and Lounge: 5885 Stetson Hills Blvd., Suite 120, 465-1704, barcoloradosprings.com.

Uwe's German Restaurant: 31 Iowa Ave., Suite 5913, 475-1611, uwesgermanrestaurant.com.

• 80910

Valley Hi Grill and Pub: 610 S. Chelton Road, 385-6918, facebook.com/valleyhigrillandpub.

• 80915

Bubba's 33: 5807 Constitution Ave., 576-1223, bubbas33.com.

Sandy's Restaurant: 6940 Space Village Ave., 651-0596, sandys-restaurant.business.site, will open for in-restaurant dining starting May 30.

• 80917

Black Bear Diner: 6715 Mesa Ridge Parkway, Fountain, 382-0349, blackbeardiner.com/location/fountain.

Cogstone Brewing: 3858 Village 7 Road, 418-6595, cogstonebrewing.com.

Jose Muldoon's: 5710 S Carefree St., 574-5673, josemuldoons.com.

LongHorn Steakhouse: 5707 Barnes Road, 597-6352, longhornsteakhouse.com.

• 80918

Bonefish Grill: 5102 N. Nevada Ave., 598-0826, uvcshopping.com.

Doug’s Breakfast and Lunch: 3659 Austin Bluffs Parkway, 354-4620, tinyurl.com/wwsyn28.

Fazoli's: 3607 Austin Bluffs Parkway, 535-0369, fazolis.com.

Panera Bread: 5230 N. Nevada Ave., 219-1200, uvcshopping.com.

Señor Manuel: 4660 N. Nevada Ave., 598-3033, senormanuels.com.

• 80920

Bad Daddy's Burger Bar: 1765 Briargate Parkway, Suite 803, 418-6845, tinyurl.com/uqkld4c.

Basil and Barley: 9278 Forest Bluffs View, 833-692-2745, basilandbarley.com.

Famous Dave's: 8330 Razorback Road, 265-6227, famousdaves.com/togo.

First Watch: 7816 N. Academy Blvd., 268-0700, firstwatch.com, will open for in-restaurant dining starting June 1.

Good Company Bar: 7625 N. Union Blvd., 528-8877, goodcompanybar.com.

Jason's Deli: 7445 N. Academy Blvd., 302-0234, jasonsdeli.com.

Lazy Dog Restaurant & Bar: 7605 N. Academy Blvd., 445-5851, tinyurl.com/w8uer78.

LuLu's Frozen Yogurt: 9475 Briar Village Point, Suite 152, 445-0734, lulusyogurt.com.

Nekter Juice Bar: 7340 N. Academy Blvd., 949-350-5817, nekterjuicebar.com.

Saltgrass Steak House: 1405 Jamboree Drive, 594-5367, saltgrass.com.

SummerSweet Yogurt and Cafe: 7142 N. Academy Blvd., 264-4344, summersweetyogurt.com.

Viewhouse: 7114 Campus Drive, 394-4137, viewhouse.com.

• 80921

Beasts & Brews: 7 Spectrum Loop, Suite 140, 247-1040, beastsandbrews.com.

Bourbon Brothers Smokehouse & Tavern Restaurant: 13021 Brass Pro Drive, 219-1830, bourbonbrothers.com.

Colorado Mountain Brewery: Interquest, 1110 Interquest Parkway, 434-5750.

Dog Haus Biergarten: 162 Tracker Drive, Suite 130, 488-4278, coloradosprings.doghaus.com.

Momma Pearl's Cajun Kitchen: 162 Tracker Drive, Suite 110, 964-0234, mommapearls.com.

The Summit Interquest - Crossroads Tavern & Grill: 1180 Interquest Parkway, 278-3861, playatthesummit.com/eat-drink.

• 80922

First Watch: 5838 Barnes Road, 574-5700, firstwatch.com, will open for in-restaurant dining starting June 1.

Panino's Restaurant: 3015 New Center Point, 380-2720, eastsidepaninos.com.

Wayfinder Coffee Co.: 6140 Austin Bluffs Parkway, 264-2386, wayfindercoffee.com.

• 80819

Mucky Duck Restaurant: 10530 Ute Pass Ave., Green Mountain Falls, 684-2008, muckyduckco.com.

• 80829

Adam's Mountain Cafe: 26 Manitou Ave., Manitou Springs, 685-1430, adamsmountaincafe.com.

Townhouse Sports Grill: 907 Manitou Ave., Manitou Springs, 685-1085, townhousesportsgrill.com.

• Multiple Locations

Subway: subway.com, some restaurants open for in-restaurant dining. Check with individual restaurants."

[himain]

^^heading down next week to spend some money at Jack Quinns! I made reservations

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by himain

^^heading down next week to spend some money at Jack Quinns! I made reservations

Wife and I ate their many times; loved that the interior came over from Ireland. Their corned beef and cabbage were always the best of anyplace I've had it. There's a city garage 1.5 blocks away at Kiowa and Nevada (also the bus terminal facility) and we could park there for $1 after 2PM. Not sure it's still a dollar but it will be cheap. That area was always attractive to us, with Kimball's movie theater (full bar service) and the Springs Orleans eatery next to it, just around the corner from Quinn's. The area really needs a few mid to high rise residential towers to create a truly walkable living experience.

[Vision67]

With the opening of restaurants, we'll soon see if we get a concomitant increase in Covid-19 infections and hospital admissions. I hope not!

However, as a 70 year old guy, I'm remaining isolated. I think I'd die or become permanently disabled if I contracted that disease. I'll admit to being extremely risk adverse.

However, if I was in my 20s, I'd likely have a different point of view.

How about you? Are you going out?

[mtngigi]

Originally Posted by Vision67

With the opening of restaurants, we'll soon see if we get a concomitant increase in Covid-19 infections and hospital admissions. I hope not!

However, as a 70 year old guy, I'm remaining isolated. I think I'd die or become permanently disabled if I contracted that disease. I'll admit to being extremely risk adverse.

However, if I was in my 20s, I'd likely have a different point of view.

How about you? Are you going out?

Nope ... I'm right there with you. I don't care what anyone says, in my opinion it's too much, too soon (and too risky). Having lost my brother, it became way more real to me, and that has colored how I'm responding to any new developments, decisions, and news. But people can make their own decisions; let's all hope what we fear might happen, doesn't happen.

[Brill]

People are worried about the economy reopening, but I haven't heard anyone mention any concerns about the lack of social distancing around the protests.