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Old 11-20-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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The talent in Hawaii is mostly on the OL and DL. Te'o and Mariota aren't commonplace.
Agreed... Polynesian boys are "generally" big, very big, and more big. They are not necessarily skilled players. Meaning speed and agility is not their thing.

But even still... They produce a ton of D1 talent.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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According to the rankings at Rivals and 247Sports (forget about ESPN and Scout, both are a joke when it comes to ranking high school recruits), almost every year the most talented recruits come from Texas, Florida and California as far as shear numbers go. Those three states are almost always in the top three. Ohio is usually in the top five. Those maps baffle me, Michigan doesn't have that much high school football talent. That's why they recruit hard in Ohio to land the players Ohio St. doesn't really want.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Agreed... Polynesian boys are "generally" big, very big, and more big. They are not necessarily skilled players. Meaning speed and agility is not their thing.

But even still... They produce a ton of D1 talent.
I watched the Hawaii DIV I State Semifinal last weekend. It was Farrington v. Kahuku, and the former has a huge OL. The funny thing is Kahuku won big, but their guys are really big, too. Farrington has a D1 prospect in Colin Ka'alele who is a 6'2" 361lbs. OG.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Howard County, MD
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Agreed... Polynesian boys are "generally" big, very big, and more big. They are not necessarily skilled players. Meaning speed and agility is not their thing.
Oh, but that's the thing, they aren't just big. They also tend to be very quick and explosive for their size.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:14 PM
 
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Oh, but that's the thing, they aren't just big. They also tend to be very quick and explosive for their size.
That is true! Some people just think Polynesians are big and slow and have bad footwork. Not true!
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Access to talent is part of it, but there's more to it than that. Until Nick Saban came to LSU, other conferences had better coaching and better recruiting. Nick Saban was the game changer, which is why even though I'm an LSU guy who's somewhat bitter about his departure for Alabama, I can't be too bitter. Saban made the entire conference more competitive. Urban Meyer didn't hurt, but Saban made everyone else up their game a bit more. I give Les Miles credit for not messing up what Saban created.

Oregon, Notre Dame, and Kansas State also have outstanding coaches, and now Ohio State does, too, with the arrival of Urban Meyer. That will probably tilt the balance of power ever so slightly so that the SEC will probably occasionally drop a BCS match here and there. But as long as there are coaches who can come in and just keep this thing going, there's an ample supply of talent to fuel the continued success of these programs indefinitely.

Changing topics here a bit, but what are the chances that Arkansas or Tennessee takes a chance on Frank Solich? John Gruden's another name I keep hearing. Could Bobby Petrino end up at Tennessee? Kentucky?
Great point. The coaching in the SEC over the past decade has been a cut above the rest of the country.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Also, I'm a little surprised to see that Wisconsin has such a dearth of talent, seeing how the Badgers generally put out a pretty good squad.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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Oh, but that's the thing, they aren't just big. They also tend to be very quick and explosive for their size.
I'm not saying the big boys are not quick... I'm just stating the obvious about skill players. Outside of Troy, I can't name a Polynesian DB in the league. LB's are usually as close as it gets on the skilled players.

But I bet they make up 15-20% of all lineman.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:26 PM
 
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Really?

You believe the south is getting its talent from PA transplants...
They are getting the population increase and thus the athletes increase. The south has always had many great athletes. Now many,many more. I am sure more than a few southern athletes have grandparents from PA.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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They are getting the population increase and thus the athletes increase. The south has always had many great athletes. Now many,many more. I am sure more than a few southern athletes have grandparents from PA.
Sure....it is that PA influence that makes our athletes great...lol.
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