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Old 04-29-2012, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Originally Posted by ram2 View Post
Cincinnati is the most boring. It lacks the outdoor activities desired.
Hey now, we're getting better by the year. You can't say Cincy is more boring than St. Louis, we're on even playing fields. haven't visited the Twin Cities yet.

 
Old 04-29-2012, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Assuming the OP needs a job, who's doing the hiring? The older people who are less open to transplants?
Most hiring manager are older, yes, but most hiring managers like finding talented people more than anything else. That being said, 9 times out of 10 my boss would be the LAST person I'd look to for friendship outside of work!

I have lived in St. Louis and visited Cincy, but I don't know enough about either to make much judgement here.....only smaller things like weather or scenery. Minneapolis winters can be COLD, but colder air squeezes out moisture which makes for sunnier weather. Typically, November and April/May are the cloudiest months -- the months that transition into cold and hot, respecitvely. Overall, Minneapolis is the sunniest place I've ever lived, and I've lived in 5 Midwestern cities in my life (Cleveland, Columbus, Chicago, St Louis are the others). When it comes to parks and recreation it's pretty tough to beat. It's VERY geared towards the water (lakes) and the culture is somewhat focused on being on or near the water much of the time. People will talk about going "up North" for the weekend or fishing or boating or whatever.....it's a big deal to many people. I will say that of the 3 cities, Minneapolis-St. Paul is likely the LEAST Catholic of the bunch, but if you lived in St. Paul you'd hardly notice the difference. CIN and STL especially are more Catholic overall.

Good luck with your move!
 
Old 04-30-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ram2 View Post
Cincinnati is the most boring. It lacks the outdoor activities desired.
This is completely incorrect. Cincinnati borders Kentucky, which is one of the most outdoor recreation-friendly states in the eastern U.S. The hills in and around Cincinnati also offer a level of fitness challenges unavailable in Minneapolis. And the city's park system is one of the biggest and best urban systems in the U.S. In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to find a larger old-growth forest closer to a downtown than you would in Cincinnati.

Cincinnati, like St. Louis, is also gorgeous architecturally and in its characteristics and resembles the East Coast cities you've grown up with much more than Minneapolis.

Based on your criteria:

1. Cincinnati
2. St. Louis
3. Minneapolis
 
Old 04-30-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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This is completely incorrect. Cincinnati borders Kentucky, which is one of the most outdoor recreation-friendly states in the eastern U.S. The hills in and around Cincinnati also offer a level of fitness challenges unavailable in Minneapolis. And the city's park system is one of the biggest and best urban systems in the U.S. In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to find a larger old-growth forest closer to a downtown than you would in Cincinnati.

Cincinnati, like St. Louis, is also gorgeous architecturally and in its characteristics and resembles the East Coast cities you've grown up with much more than Minneapolis.

Based on your criteria:

1. Cincinnati
2. St. Louis
3. Minneapolis
Here's your old growth forests:
Nature

Although probably not as hilly as Cincinnati, I seriously doubt that there isn't a hill around the Twin Cities area that isn't as large as what you can find in Cincy. And I will bet anything in the world that the Twin Cities are more outdoorsy and recreational than Cincy, not to mention have a better urban parks system in the Chain of Lakes/Grand Rounds.

It's okay to have your opinion, but it's pretty clear to me you've never been to Minneapolis and perhaps not St. Louis either. I'd stick to what you DO know about Cincy and leave Minny and STL out of the picture.
 
Old 04-30-2012, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Cincinnati is about to open a casino with a waterfront park on the river, tons of new hotels and lots lots more.
 
Old 04-30-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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Here's your old growth forests:
Nature

Although probably not as hilly as Cincinnati, I seriously doubt that there isn't a hill around the Twin Cities area that isn't as large as what you can find in Cincy. And I will bet anything in the world that the Twin Cities are more outdoorsy and recreational than Cincy, not to mention have a better urban parks system in the Chain of Lakes/Grand Rounds.

It's okay to have your opinion, but it's pretty clear to me you've never been to Minneapolis and perhaps not St. Louis either. I'd stick to what you DO know about Cincy and leave Minny and STL out of the picture.
I was responding to another poster's inaccuracies about Cincinnati. Your ridiculous assertion that I've never been to Minny is as off base as your knowledge of Cincinnati. And, since you're apparently dying to know my whereabouts, I was most recently in Minneapolis for a weekend last June - stayed in Dinkytown, walked across the bridge into downtown for a Twins-Rangers game (don't remember any hills), rode the light rail, went to MOA, went to some antiques store out by the airport, had a beer at Hard Rock Cafe, had quite a few more at The Library in Dinkytown. As for St. Louis, I've been there on many, many occasions.

And, if you look at my post a second time, I said the recreational opportunities available in next-door Kentucky are unmatched. As for the city, its hills are unique and its park system is elite. Why you took offense to that is beyond me. Frankly, you have zero idea what you're talking about when you try to discuss Cincinnati.

By the way, that's a cute, little 220-acre forest patch there in Minny. Of course, in Cincinnati, there's this just 10 minutes from downtown:

http://cincyparks.com/parks-events/west-region/mt-airy-forest/ (broken link)

http://www.cincyparks.com/about-us/index.shtml (broken link)

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Old 04-30-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Minneapolis more than fulfills all your requirements. STL and Cincinnati are great cities as well, but I really don't think you'll do better than Minneapolis.
 
Old 04-30-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Did anyone notice that this thread was started two years ago?
 
Old 04-30-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Twin Cities are much more "outdoorsy" than Cincy. Plus your a short drive away to Lake Country in Northern MN/WI.

We have river valleys and dozens of lakes within the metro
 
Old 04-30-2012, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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I'm from St. Louis, originally. It is a classicist jerk water, one of the most segregated cities by skin color and socio-economic standing in the U.S. Even the white people treat each other poorly unless you know them from your public school or reflect the same socio-economic identity through social expression. (Though this quality is ever more endemic as the U.S. citizenry cow tows to the counterintelpro {counter intelligence program} waged through all U.S. media outlets on the U.S. citizenry.)

I resided out West from 1987 to 1999. Returned to St. Loogey, Misery (St. Louis, MO), and wholly despised it. The white collar work-spaces deal in protecting your job versus dispensing with the work at hand to keep the customer happy and always returning for more. I'm a technical writer, and without pride or ego, I produce superior quality in far less time than all technical writer peers I've ever encountered as part of a work group. Technical writers do stab each-other in the back when they can.

As for a Catholic city, well, when I lost around 100 pounds got down to about 215 or so at 6'4", I was perpetually hit on by married women from about 2003 to 2005. Irked by this unwanted attention, I asked the religion of the pursuing women as they'd follow me out of the Des Peres, MO Schnuck's grocer's, the J'Buck's Westfield West County shopping mall, at the large Salvation Army store in Central West End, and other places. About 2/3 were Catholic. Take this fact I encountered as your please. It is as if the St. Louis white West County married woman was living the "Desperate Housewives" television series.

A joke about St. Louis by white St. Louis area residents:
Q: "You know that arch thing in St. Louis?"
A: "Yeah."
Q: "Well, the built another arches thing next to it, and McDonald's bought the city and county for they were morally and financially bankrupt."

Stay away from St. Louis, MO. I can't speak to Cincinnati, OH. Never been there.

Choose Minneapolis. Become and love the flatlanders. Many shortcomings in Minneapolis, yet more intelligent, from what I've read, versus the other two cities. Ohio and the region continue to die financially as the U.S. congress farmed out much of the commercial value (manufacturing, primarily) to China, so Wall Street benefits, and the U.S. Congress get re-elected with Wall Street funds. Dennis Kucinich has done Ohio no favors. Neither has the orange-skinned cigarette smoker John Boehner.

Further, to all a warning. Stay far, far, far, away from Spokane, WA. It is among the most treacherous and corrupt of small U.S. cities (and quite the corrupt Catholic conclave). I thought I knew what white trash was in St. Louis. Slumkane, Spookylou, Trashkane (pronounce kane as 'can') bring white trash to a level I did not ever imagine. Stay far, far, away from Slumkane. Warn all you care for.
Please, stop talking. This post is just inaccurate to no end, and the most simple stereotypical summarization of a place i've ever heard. It's people like you that give St. Louis a bad name.
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