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haha, talk about a flawed survery. The biggest subject had to do with drunk driving, DUI's, and "booze fueled car crashes".
There's a huge difference in cultures as far as "bars - driving - alcohol". Growing up in a college town and then living in Chicago, I've been surrounded by hard core drinkers my whole life, but when I'm traveling other places and see huge bars surrounded by PARKING LOTS, I always have to do a double take and laugh.
It's such just a bizzare thing when you think about it. I guess I'm just not use to ever thinking in that mindframe. It's like the biggest tabboo in the country, yet no one points out the irony. People say "oh, well you just get a DD". Right, cause 60% of the people might do that, but the other 40% who just pretend it's not happening, "only have to go a few blocks" or "accidentally have too much" are more than enough to freak me out.
I certainly don't think the drunkest cities are the ones with the most alcohol related driving issues, I would say those are the stupidest drunk cities.
Well I know Milwaukee was number 1 a couple of years ago and I doubt we all switched to Pabst N/A overnight.
This is a completely different list, the one you're thinking of was from Forbes. This list is from Men's Health and uses a completely different methodology, it seems to be framing the whole "Drunkest Cities" title in a very negative context. This list is only looking at alcohol related deaths and drunk driving incidents, the Forbes list looked at number of bars per capita in determining their list.
This is a completely different list, the one you're thinking of was from Forbes. This list is from Men's Health and uses a completely different methodology, it seems to be framing the whole "Drunkest Cities" title in a very negative context. This list is only looking at alcohol related deaths and drunk driving incidents, the Forbes list looked at number of bars per capita in determining their list.
Lol! I love this list and I love that Lubbock is number 8. I have met a few hard core alcoholics from Lubbock. What's funny is that Lubbock was a dry county (or city?) until this past May. haha! They finally lifted the alcohol ban because it obviously wasn't effecting anything besides pushing a lot of business (in liquor stores) just outside of the city.
Anyway, I do agree with what people are saying about the numbers being distorted toward car based cities.
Now I know why Lubbock and Bakersfield did so poor in my attempts to do City-vs-City. Bunch of drunks!
More seriously I don't know how valid it is either, but the criteria sound okay to me. It's not just DUIs, but binge-drinking and alcohol-related liver damage. I think that gives some separation from social drinking to hardcore and even though I'm a teetotaler I think that's a meaningful distinction.
Then again Boston comes out the best on their full list and I'm not sure that fits what I've heard/known.
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