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Old 08-23-2009, 03:29 PM
 
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San Diego has a larger GDP than Shanghai, Beijing and the entire state of Maharashta in India(Mumbai) and just under Singapore.

Combined Statistical Area compared to some World Urban Areas/ Total Gross Product($150B+)
Greater Tokyo GDP $1.5 Trillion
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA $1.284 Trillion
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA $825.3 Billion
Paris Metropolitan Area $731 Billion
Greater London $669 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Hagerstown, DC-MD-VA-WV $500.0 Billion
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI $490.9 Billion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA $475.5 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH $383.8 Billion
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX $344.5 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth, TX $341.5 Billion
Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD $330.0 Billion
Hong Kong $293 Billion
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL $262.6 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL $248.0 Billion
Buenos Aires GDP $245 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI $233.0 Billion
New South Wales State(Sydney) GDP $224 Billion
Greater Madrid GDP $224 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA $217.9 Billion
Toronto Metro GDP $196 Billion
Moscow GDP $181 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ $179.4 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul-St Cloud, MN-WI $186.7 Billion
Greater Milan GDP $174 Billion
Denver-Aurora-Boulder, CO $162.3 Billion
Singapore GDP $161 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA $157.8 Billion
Beijing GDP $146 Billion
Seoul GDP $146 Billion
Shanghai GDP $128 Billion
Maharashta State(Mumbai) GDP $106 Billion

Kuala Lumpur GDP $100 Billion


Umm. $186.7 Billion is greater than $179.4 Billion; therefore, Minneapolis ranks higher than Phoenix.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:08 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Yeah, you said "The South". Texas is Texas. It isn't The South. The Southeast is "The South".

And LA is a whole different beast from the Sunbelt. CA is CA.

The Sunbelt is places like Phoenix, Texas, and "The South". CA shares more characteristics with the older parts of the country (higher costs, richer, better educated, slower growth) than with the Sunbelt.
LOL!

I assure you that Texas is in the South.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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You're creating false regional divisions. The Northeast is comprised of New England and the Mid-Atlantic. I could just as easily do the same thing with the South and divide the region into the Southeast and South Central.

NYC, Philly, and DC would all fall under the Mid-Atlantic category, while Boston would belong in the New England category. All 4 cities are part of the Northeast region.
Nonsense. The midatlantic is a completely separate region from the Northeast. There are some people who act like there isn't a difference, but Baltimore and D.C. aren't in the same region as Boston, NYC, and Philly. They're just close.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:18 PM
 
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LOL!

I assure you that Texas is in the South.
Don't you dare tell Texans that.

Texas is in "the South" the way Arizona is in "the South".

Yes, it's in the Southern U.S. No, it DEFINITELY isn't "the South", as in former Dixie. No freakin way. Totally different history, culture, accent, food, etc.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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Nonsense. The midatlantic is a completely separate region from the Northeast. There are some people who act like there isn't a difference, but Baltimore and D.C. aren't in the same region as Boston, NYC, and Philly. They're just close.
What?? This is total nonsense. Mid-Atlantic and Northeast are used interchangably. NYC is Mid-Atlantic and Northeast, for example. There are people who commute daily from Wilmington, Delaware to NYC. You are saying they live and work in different regions?

The entire Northeast, from VA to Maine is one region. Not sure how this is even debatable, especially considering it's so tiny an area, relative to other U.S. regions.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:24 PM
 
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It depends what part of TX you're in , to determine how southern it is.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:46 PM
 
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LOL!

I assure you that Texas is in the South.
So is San Diego. Whats your point? Regional areas of the country. Why do Americans not know our country? If you are gonna include Texas to Florida up to South Carolina Then how is DC and Philly not the North? SURELY philly is. Takes 45 minutes to get to NYC from Philly or vise versa.
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Old 08-23-2009, 06:52 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Well, it quite likely wouldn't consider them, because they are in entirely separate countries.

And how on earth could Tijuana's economy be grouped with San Diego's?

They are separated by the second most highly militarized border on earth, and 95% of people on the Southern side cannot legally travel to the Northern side.
Tens of thousands of workers who live in Tijuana commute to San Diego daily for jobs. Lots of TJ residents do their shopping on the US side of the border. Go to the closest Best Buy near the border in Chula Vista and over 1/2 the cars have Baja CA plates on them. Many of the wealthy who shop at Fashion Valley mall are wealthy Mexicans from TJ. Residents of Tijuana contribute billions to the economic output of the region. And many residents of San Diego cross the border into Tijuana to do business there.

There is a lot of economic activity that goes on between the two cities and it's fairly reasonable to include TJ with SD's statistics since it's prescence does have an impact on the economy here.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:07 PM
 
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Tens of thousands of workers who live in Tijuana commute to San Diego daily for jobs.
I doubt there are tens of thousands. I am Mexican, and the vast majority of Mexicans have no chance of entering the U.S. legally under any pretenses.

If there are 20,000 people commuting out of 2 million residents, this is still a tiny number, and I suspect most are dual residents who live (and especially retire) in Baja because it is so cheap.
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Lots of TJ residents do their shopping on the US side of the border. Go to the closest Best Buy near the border in Chula Vista and over 1/2 the cars have Baja CA plates on them.
Again, these are dual citizens. They are as much American as Mexican! They have Mexican licenses because it is cheaper for most cars (they assign license plate fees by the type of car).

And we have Best Buy and similar stores in Mexico, and generally with the same prices. No need to go to the U.S. for that stuff.
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Many of the wealthy who shop at Fashion Valley mall are wealthy Mexicans from TJ. Residents of Tijuana contribute billions to the economic output of the region. And many residents of San Diego cross the border into Tijuana to do business there.
That's fine. You could say the same of New Yorkers in Miami or vice versa. Now are NYC and Miami part of the same metro area?

And San Antonio is, by far, the #1 U.S. shopping destination for Mexicans.
This is because they run all these special shopping excursion packages to San Antonio. You would therefore say that San Antonio and Mexico City are part of the same metro?

The fact is that the VAST majority of people on the Mexican side have as much chance of entering the U.S. as they do of winning the lottery.
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There is a lot of economic activity that goes on between the two cities and it's fairly reasonable to include TJ with SD's statistics since it's prescence does have an impact on the economy here.
Ok, then according to you, London is part of the NYC metropolitan area, and vice versa.

As you claim, the criteria for two cities to be included in the same metro area is "its presence does have an impact on the economy" of the other.

NYC impacts London and vice versa, so according to you, they are part of the same metro area.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Once again, you have provided lots of potentially good info, but no way of verifying whether or not it's true. Link?
Its from the Bureau of Economic Analysis Website. I added up each MSA component of each CSA.

You can verify it by doing the same.
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