Demographics Thread - 2021 (best, state, places, America)

[As Above So Below...]

The elephant in the room is this:

-If you are black, you are more likely to identify a place with the South.

-If you are white, you are less likely to identify a place with the South.

I don't quite understand why, but I honestly don't care that much. But the observations I've made are pretty clear cut along those lines.

[mhays25]

Originally Posted by Kaszilla

I just don't understand how a state can stop being southern. Is Virginia going to stop being southern soon? How about North Carolina? Can a northern state stop being northern?

How can a place NOT change over time? Culture, economic foundations, ties to other places...all dynamic.

That doesn't point to any specific change, but changes do occur.

[Kaszilla]

Originally Posted by mhays25

How can a place NOT change over time? Culture, economic foundations, ties to other places...all dynamic.

That doesn't point to any specific change, but changes do occur.

Yes changes do occur but how does a state stop being southern though? What exactly makes Maryland northern? If North Carolina in 50 years end up being more like MD compared to the rest of the south, will it not be southern anymore?

[mhays25]

I suppose it would depend on context. Maybe after 50 years it would be seen like Florida, geographically in the South but not culturally for the most part.

In the cast of Maryland and DC, "northern" culture, economy, etc., have grown over time, hence many people arguing that they're more north than south today.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

The elephant in the room is this:

-If you are black, you are more likely to identify a place with the South.

-If you are white, you are less likely to identify a place with the South.

I don't quite understand why, but I honestly don't care that much. But the observations I've made are pretty clear cut along those lines.

I dont think that's true. I think White people are more likely to call WV or MD the south than Black people are.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

I dont think that's true. I think White people are more likely to call WV or MD the south than Black people are.

I don’t know about it up there, but in Texas it’s the opposite. Ask any black folks in Texas and they will tell you proudly that they are in the south. White people are ashamed of saying they are from the south and May try to find anyway way possible to claim otherwise. And I don’t think it’s even an elephant in the room kind of thing it’s an obvious thing that everyone knows

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

The elephant in the room is this:

-If you are black, you are more likely to identify a place with the South.

-If you are white, you are less likely to identify a place with the South.

I don't quite understand why, but I honestly don't care that much. But the observations I've made are pretty clear cut along those lines.

Because white people don’t want to be associated with historic slavery, black don’t have anything be ashamed of in this aspect. The south being known as a racist region makes whites want to stay away from the narrative naturally.

[Kaszilla]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

I don’t know about it up there, but in Texas it’s the opposite. Ask any black folks in Texas and they will tell you proudly that they are in the south. White people are ashamed of saying they are from the south and May try to find anyway way possible to claim otherwise. And I don’t think it’s even an elephant in the room kind of thing it’s an obvious thing that everyone knows

Same with Florida. Black people in Orlando and Miami consider themselves southerners. White people, not really.

[personone]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

The elephant in the room is this:

-If you are black, you are more likely to identify a place with the South.

-If you are white, you are less likely to identify a place with the South.

I don't quite understand why, but I honestly don't care that much. But the observations I've made are pretty clear cut along those lines.

From my perspective, I think it’s kind of the opposite. Although, I’m kind of guessing on what race people are on this site. It seems like Black people kind of want to dissociate from the South, since many blacks outside of the NE are stereotyped as being Southern. They subconsciously don’t want to be viewed as Southern, since that is the general stereotype for many Black Americans, so they try to dissociate from the South.

I don’t think Whites care as much. I am Polish American and originally from Maryland. I have no problem with it being called Southern. I have lived in Philly and Chicago (NE and North/Upper Midwest cities). Maryland feels much different than the North to me, and while I think MidAtlantic is the best designation, it is technically classified as Southern by the Census, and therefore, I have no problem if someone does classify it as Southern. I was born in the 80’s and growing up, MD had significantly more noticeable Southern culture. I remember seeing confederate flags in Western Howard County and hearing about the Klan. Thankfully, that has faded away from MDs culture.

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by Kaszilla

Same with Florida. Black people in Orlando and Miami consider themselves southerners. White people, not really.

That's been my experience in Florida too. Especially Miami.
But it wouldn't be City Data if we didn't try to chop up areas