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Where in Canada from SFO?...I’m showing 957 air miles to Vancouver (vs 2259 listed below)...also, are there no flights to Tijuana?—I’m showing 517 air miles if so (vs 1881 listed below for Mexico).
I’m wondering about this too. It’s 2,500 miles from Montreal to San Francisco, and Montreal is the Easternmost major city in the country. From my experience, SF is not a popular destination among Quebecers.
Meanwhile, Montreal is the closest Canadian destination from Miami, and the listed distance is in line with that.
I do appreciate the compiling of that list, however. It’s just hard to paint an accurate portrait when including such large countries.
And yes, I am aware that the results would still largely show SF having a larger average distance.
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That was one reason, among others, why I moved back East from CA....closer to more places where I vacation with more nonstops—NYC, Caribbean, Latin / South America and Europe.
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Well, Miami is easily accessible (and close) to a lot of other countries, whereas San Francisco is not. The above data isn’t that surprising.
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Both CSAs have 33 foreign countries with 100,000+ immgrants living there--Among the 10 largest groups of each, Bay Area newcomers travel much longer distances on average...
Where in Canada from SFO?...I’m showing 957 air miles to Vancouver (vs 2259 listed below)...also, are there no flights to Tijuana?—I’m showing 517 air miles if so (vs 1881 listed below for Mexico).
Wow Miami has a really great location. Thanks for this.
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Youre very welcome. This really put things into perspective for me in regards to the notion of 'abroad', it takes much more effort to get to San Francisco. All 10 of Miami's top 10 immigrant concentrations from countries located in this hemisphere while only 3 of San Francisco's top 10 are in this hemisphere. Why don't more Europeans live in Miami, I wonder? SF has more Germans, French, English, Russian, Ukrainian, Portuguese etc. I found that strange considering how much focus in this thread has been dedicated to hot and rich Europeans. But I digress.
Oh, Just to put things into further perspective:
Immigrant Communities with 10,000+ persons from Countries in the Americas:
Miami 23 out of 30
San Francisco 8 out of 30
San Francisco(Distance in Air Miles from SFO)
Total Countries: 33 Average Distance from Top 10 Countries to SFO: 5,470 miles.
677,838 Mexico(1,881 miles)
332,487 China(6,133 miles)
301,609 India(7,679 miles)
287,997 Philippines(6,970 miles)
184,917 Vietnam(7,824 miles)
80,513 El Salvador(2,640 miles)
65,045 Taiwan(6,542 miles)
56,467 Korea(5,615 miles)
53,353 Hong Kong(6,910 miles)
44,573 Guatemala(2,514 miles)
41,779 Iran(7,351 miles)
39,988 Canada(2,259 miles)
28,917 Japan(5,108 miles)
27,128 Germany(5,681 miles)
26,926 Russia(5,875 miles)
26,458 Nicaragua(2,841 miles)
23,303 Afghanistan(7,808 miles)
22,755 Pakistan(7,532 miles)
18,226 Fiji(5,435 miles)
18,007 France(5,565 miles)
17,453 Brazil(6,472 miles)
17,389 Burma(7,623 miles)
17,102 Peru(4,501 miles)
15,064 Thailand(7,923 miles)
14,711 Ukraine(6,129 miles)
14,226 England(5,351 miles)
14,174 Colombia(3,787 miles)
13,547 Cambodia(7,589 miles)
13,178 Portugal(5,667 miles)
11,429 Nepal(7,559 miles)
10,694 Italy(6,247 miles)
10,646 Ethiopia(8,988 miles)
10,520 Laos(7,506 miles)
We are two areas of the country that are completely different in terms of international visitation and immigration-there is no right or wrong way to develop and grow immigrant populations-that happens on their own.
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Where did you get your stats?...and are you comparing the city of SF to the city of Miami OR the SF Bay area to only the city of Miami...for an apple to apples comparison it would need to be either city v city OR SF Bay Area v Miami /So Fla area--as in MSA (which would include Ft Lauderdale up through Palm Beach).
Slightly dated and not quite exactly apples to apples, but from what I found below, in the case of Russians as of 2016 Miami had 400,000 Russian speaking residents; as of 2014, SF Bay area had only 40,000....has SF made up that big gap and overtaken Miami in the past several years?
What about other countries mentioned...Would love to see the source used, where and what criteria (geographical designation for both cities as well as expats vs. 3rd or 4th generation xxx-American) were used for French, English, German, Italian, etc. given the Russian discrepancy above.
Agree, there are far more countries in closer proximity to Miami (heck, the Caribbean represents 26 different countries by itself).
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Youre very welcome. This really put things into perspective for me in regards to the notion of 'abroad', it takes much more effort to get to San Francisco. All 10 of Miami's top 10 immigrant concentrations from countries located in this hemisphere while only 3 of San Francisco's top 10 are in this hemisphere. Why don't more Europeans live in Miami, I wonder? SF has more Germans, French, English, Russian, Ukrainian, Portuguese etc. I found that strange considering how much focus in this thread has been dedicated to hot and rich Europeans. But I digress.
We are two areas of the country that are completely different in terms of international visitation and immigration-there is no right or wrong way to develop and grow immigrant populations-that happens on their own.
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Where did you get your stats?...and are you comparing the city of SF to the city of Miami OR the SF Bay area to only the city of Miami...for an apple to apples comparison it would need to be either city v city OR SF Bay Area v Miami /So Fla area--as in MSA (which would include Ft Lauderdale up through Palm Beach).
Slightly dated and not quite exactly apples to apples, but from what I found below, in the case of Russians as of 2016 Miami had 400,000 Russian speaking residents; as of 2014, SF Bay area had only 40,000....has SF made up that big gap and overtaken Miami in the past several years?
What about other countries mentioned...Would love to see the source used, where and what criteria (geographical designation for both cities as well as expats vs. 3rd or 4th generation xxx-American) were used for French, English, German, Italian, etc. given the Russian discrepancy above.
Agree, there are far more countries in closer proximity to Miami (heck, the Caribbean represents 26 different countries by itself).
Thanks
Yeah I would be very weary of non-official govt stats. I used the 2019 census bureau estimates from data.census.gov
And I compared the 2 CSAs. To say you have 400,000 Russian speakers seems really dubious since you dont have anywhere near that many Russians. Ijs.
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The 400,000 figure was taken directly from the article link I attached...would love to find official stats for both cities. Seems they exist for international visitors; residents from various countries is a tad harder to uncover. CSA to CSA is good.
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Yeah I would be very weary of non-official govt stats. I used the 2019 census bureau estimates from data.census.gov
And I compared the 2 CSAs. To say you have 400,000 Russian speakers seems really dubious since you dont have anywhere near that many Russians. Ijs.
The 400,000 figure was taken directly from the article link I attached...would love to find official stats for both cities. Seems they exist for international visitors; residents from various countries is a tad harder to uncover. CSA to CSA is good.
Okay but this is a screenshot from the Census Bureau's website and the Miami CSA had approx. 39,000 Russian speakers in 2018.
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