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Old 10-09-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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It's amazing how many people think Minneapolis and St. Paul are completely separated by the Mississippi. I wish the two cities would merge already and stop confusing all the ignoramuses.
gladhands was saying something that's basically in line with what you're saying--that the Twin Cities really should count as one and that going by the arbitrary limits of city boundaries for Minneapolis against Detroit. That's true, and as pointed out, it's not a very accurate comparison. It's weird that you quoted him but then ellipsis'd out the part that gives it the context and actual meaning.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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It's amazing how many people think Minneapolis and St. Paul are completely separated by the Mississippi. I wish the two cities would merge already and stop confusing all the ignoramuses.
It's really quite clear: The OP separated Minneapolis and St Paul, but put Minneapolis, alone, on the same tier as Detroit. No one is saying that The Twin Cities and Detroit are peers. Nor are we saying that they need to be evaluated individually. What we're saying is that if you DO evaluate them individually, Minneapolis is not a peer of Detroit.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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Upper Midwest (Rural): Montana, Dakotas, Minnesota.

Upper Midwest (Urban): Minneapolis, Milwaukee Metro areas.

Chicagoland: Chicago Metro Area.

Central Midwest (Rural): Iowa, the rest of Illinois, Nebraska.

Central Midwest (Urban): Kansas City and St. Louis Metro Areas.

Great Plains: Kansas, Oklahoma, Eastern Colorado.

Rust Belt (Urban): Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh Metro Areas.

Rust Belt (Rural): Anything above outside the metro areas.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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^Guessing “rust belt” is every city in the eastern time zone?
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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^Guessing “rust belt” is every city in the eastern time zone?
Sounds about right.

Although historians lump in parts of PA and NJ into the "Rust Belt" like Harrisburg and Trenton, NJ.
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Old 10-09-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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It's really quite clear: The OP separated Minneapolis and St Paul, but put Minneapolis, alone, on the same tier as Detroit. No one is saying that The Twin Cities and Detroit are peers. Nor are we saying that they need to be evaluated individually. What we're saying is that if you DO evaluate them individually, Minneapolis is not a peer of Detroit.
I get it. I'm just curious as to what city tiers you think Detroit and Minneapolis belong to or who their peers are.
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Old 10-09-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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I get it. I'm just curious as to what city tiers you think Detroit and Minneapolis belong to or who their peers are.
The Twin Cities and Detroit definitely make up tier two. I think just about everyone would agree on that. If we were to separate the Twin Cities, Minneapolis would be in the third tier with Cleveland, St. Louis etc. I kind of agree with those who say it doesn’t make sense to separate the Twin Cities, since they basically function as one.

Edit: I just read the post you replied to, and saw the typo that caused all the confusion. I meant to say “No one is saying that Detroit in the Twin Cities AREN’T peers”.
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Old 10-09-2017, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Sounds about right.

Although historians lump in parts of PA and NJ into the "Rust Belt" like Harrisburg and Trenton, NJ.
I wouldn't exclude Saint Louis or Milwaukee from the rust belt myself. Both are far more akin to a Cleveland than STL is to KC or Milwaukee is to Minneapolis. Conversely, Indy is not really a rust belt city at all.
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Old 10-09-2017, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Cbus
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Indy and Columbus have surprisingly diverse, strong economies. They may be bland places to live overall, but their economies are solid.
The bland comment is really a tired stereotype. Putting aside the fact that Columbus's core is rapidly densifying and that there's a crane on almost every other block in the Central Columbus, there are several suburbs that are anything but bland and most Americans would be lucky to live in e.g. Bexley, Grandview Heights, Old Worthington, Upper Arlington, Uptown Westerville etc.

To answer the OP's question regarding the three C's of Ohio I would say the general sentiment is that there is no one dominant city. Everyone kind of has their own preference of which metro they prefer the best but population wise and GDP wise the three metros are more similar than different.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:24 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The bland comment is really a tired stereotype. Putting aside the fact that Columbus's core is rapidly densifying and that there's a crane on almost every other block in the Central Columbus, there are several suburbs that are anything but bland and most Americans would be lucky to live in e.g. Bexley, Grandview Heights, Old Worthington, Upper Arlington, Uptown Westerville etc.

To answer the OP's question regarding the three C's of Ohio I would say the general sentiment is that there is no one dominant city. Everyone kind of has their own preference of which metro they prefer the best but population wise and GDP wise the three metros are more similar than different.
Do you think it’s also a tired stereotype when applied to Indianapolis?
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