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I... The lack of diversity also crosses into the food. Seattle nor Portland doesn't really have too much ethnic food, especially when you compare it to a city like Chicago or even Atlanta.
But yeah, if you want diversity, don't come to Seattle and Portland.....
These statements I find breathtaking in their audacity and ignorance.
According to this foodie list (and of course there are other lists....) Seattle and Portland rank in the top ten of US cities for food; Atlanta is 15th.
And yes, this list considers ethnic or "diverse" foods....
Seattle, in whose school district has students that speak more than 100 different languages, I would say is certainly diverse. (Of course, other City-Data board members seem to consider diversity to be non-white people [whatever that means] rather than diversity of languages and cultures. [And, who's checking funtraveler's grammar here....])
% White does not equate to diversity. As an example, Baltimore is 98% two races: Black and White. Seattle has Black, Asian and Hispanic populations of 9%, 13%, and 7%, respectively. Also, Seattle's metro % White population is actually lower than Minneapolis as well. There are plenty of cities in the area that are minority-majority.
As for ethnic food, Seattle has a lot of great and authentic Ethiopian, Thai, Vietnamese, Indian, Middle-Eastern and various other cuisines. It also has a relatively high foreign-born population and actually has the most diverse neighborhood in the country (Columbia City) in terms of languages spoken.
Seattle's metro is very diverse, particularly the cities in-between Tacoma and Seattle (Renton, Federal Way, Tukwila, Kent, etc). Not to mention neighborhoods in Seattle (White Center, Columbia City, Rainier Beach, Beacon Hill, etc.)
The ethnic food scene of Seattle in areas such as the U-district or the International district is phenomenal.
Similarly, the metro cities mentioned above offer a wide variety of ethnic food (Thai, Indian, Mexican, Middle Eastern, etc)
I wouldn't recommend commenting on Seattle's diversity or ethnic food scene until you have spent significant time in the Puget Sound.
Minneapolis is significantly less expensive than Seattle or Portland. You can still find 1 Br apartments in good neighborhoods for $700 to $800 a month.
Wow. Really? Thanks for the correction. Pittsburgh is now more expensive than Minneapolis, then, and it's an inferior city. You guys have an awesome bang-for-your-buck factor out there if you can score a 1-BR in a nice neighborhood for $700/month.
I live in Seattle so here's my thoughts on this...
Seattle has a relatively moderate climate, is super rainy, has a big city feel, and is relatively good for cycling/walking, and has a lot of cool things to do. It does have a lot of traffic tho, for which the medicore transit system doesnt really help--and its also super expensive. Minneapolis, from visiting, isnt as outdoorsy ((access to national parks, city parks) and doesnt quite have the same big city feel; but its cheaper and the transit system is probably better-more light rail. Seattle has a pretty good frequent transit network, but its really slow, crowded, and unreliable. So overall, I'd go for Seattle unless you can't afford it, or care more about transit than big city feel/outdoorsiness. There's also denver; they're cheaper, have a nice downtown, okay enough transit system, and have good food. Oh, and btw dont worry about crime in seattle--for a big city violent crime's on the lower side, property crime is high but not awful--as long as you live in a decent neighborhood you'll be fine. Does this help?
% White does not equate to diversity. As an example, Baltimore is 98% two races: Black and White. Seattle has Black, Asian and Hispanic populations of 9%, 13%, and 7%, respectively. Also, Seattle's metro % White population is actually lower than Minneapolis as well. There are plenty of cities in the area that are minority-majority.
As for ethnic food, Seattle has a lot of great and authentic Ethiopian, Thai, Vietnamese, Indian, Middle-Eastern and various other cuisines. It also has a relatively high foreign-born population and actually has the most diverse neighborhood in the country (Columbia City) in terms of languages spoken.
Here's a breakdown by city proper. Again, info is from the 2015 American Community Survey
Seattle
Black (alone): 7.2%
Asian (alone): 14%
Hispanic (of any race): 6.3%
Portland
Black (alone): 5.6%
Asian (alone): 7.9%
Hispanic (of any race): 9.7%
Minneapolis
Black (alone): 19.2%
Asian (alone): 6.6%
Hispanic (of any race): 9.7%
St. Paul
Black (alone): 15.2%
Asian (alone): 17.8%
Hispanic (of any race): 9.1%
Foreign-Born Population
Seattle: 17.5%
Portland: 13.6%
Minneapolis: 17.2%
St. Paul: 18.8%
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Originally Posted by rossiapacifica
These statements I find breathtaking in their audacity and ignorance.
According to this foodie list (and of course there are other lists....) Seattle and Portland rank in the top ten of US cities for food; Atlanta is 15th.
And yes, this list considers ethnic or "diverse" foods....
Seattle, in whose school district has students that speak more than 100 different languages, I would say is certainly diverse. (Of course, other City-Data board members seem to consider diversity to be non-white people [whatever that means] rather than diversity of languages and cultures. [And, who's checking funtraveler's grammar here....])
Rossia
Portland does not have greater ethnic food variety than either Minneapolis or St. Paul. I don't think Seattle evens offers up more ethnic variety.
BTW, the Minneapolis public school district has around 100 different languages represented and St. Paul has over 120.
Seattle is the most expensive but you get what you pay for....it's the best of the 3. To enjoy Seattle though, you have to be able to afford it. It does offer high salaries if you work in the right field so that compensates for the cost for many. The traffic in Seattle sux so that's a negative for me. The overcast weather you said you like so that's a positive for you but not for me. You mentioned crime and Seattle is low for a US city and so is Portland.
Portland is like a smaller Seattle with less good paying jobs and less traffic. MSP offers a lot if you can stand very cold temps and don't need mountains or beaches in your life.
Oh, snap! I did say more than 100 languages spoken in the Seattle School District. Wait a minute, I just found an update on the Seattle School District site....it says 132 languages....
Oh, snap! I did say more than 100 languages spoken in the Seattle School District. Wait a minute, I just found an update on the Seattle School District site....it says 132 languages....
LOL! Seattle has over 684,000 people within its city limits and has a few more spoken languages than Minneapolis, a city of 410,000 and St. Paul, a city of just over 300,000. Oh snap!
LOL! Seattle has over 684,000 people within its city limits and has a few more spoken languages than Minneapolis, a city of 410,000 and St. Paul, a city of just over 300,000. Oh snap!
If you're comparing one metro area to another, let's keep it consistent.
King County has just over 2 million people living in it. That's easily considered the "Seattle area" for this region.
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Thoughts on this from a Seattelite
