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As a non-scientist but someone who has written and edited professionally for many years, I believe if someone will take the trouble to parse and diagram the above post they will find it makes no sense whatsoever.
Go for it. You are not going to be able to without referencing your particular religious beliefs. Someone from a different religion will come behind you and rip your post to shreds. That is always quite comical.
Go for it. You are not going to be able to without referencing your particular religious beliefs. Someone from a different religion will come behind you and rip your post to shreds. That is always quite comical.
Above reminds me of the old adage, " He who laughs last laughs best. " - but not meant to be as comical.
As a non-scientist but someone who has written and edited professionally for many years, I believe if someone will take the trouble to parse and diagram the above post they will find it makes no sense whatsoever.
Hm ... this seems like gaslighting of the first order. I had no trouble on first read with it.
* Gods are only relevant where there is sentience of a sufficient magnitude to comprehend or interact with such a concept
* The vastness of the universe (and of time), once one is aware of it, is hard to fully comprehend without considerable effort, so people tend to invent gods as a simpler / less challenging / more intuitive explanation.
Oh no. All that barking? What about wild animals? Will there be lions, tigers and bears wandering around? Like it seems God felt appropriate for us humans here on earth?
I believe that all life is eternal, so if I'm right, there will also be wild animals and trees and flowers.
Hm ... this seems like gaslighting of the first order. I had no trouble on first read with it.
* Gods are only relevant where there is sentience of a sufficient magnitude to comprehend or interact with such a concept
* The vastness of the universe (and of time), once one is aware of it, is hard to fully comprehend without considerable effort, so people tend to invent gods as a simpler / less challenging / more intuitive explanation.
Better?
Exactly. I am not all that great at sugar coating delivery. lol You hit the nail on the head though. When civilizations cannot understand or explain their existence, they invent gods. Some have multiple gods that are in control of particular aspects of life or nature and some have a single supreme being.
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I can agree to the extent that the possibilites exist caring about the inhabitants such as: lower life forms.
In other words, there could be the possibility of 'animal life' elsewhere, but Not intelligent life as we have here.
Faithful intelligent life elsewhere would show No need to settle the ' sin issue ' Satan and Adam started on Earth.
The Bible is the handbook for planet Earth and humans. And Adam and Eve were human.
I've always thought that there might be intelligent life 'out there' but their roadmap is different from ours.
As a scientist, these types of questions almost give me a headache.
There is a really simple answer to the question. The only way there is a so called "God" looking over the vast number of planets in the never ending universe is if there are life forms there that are intelligent enough to have imaginations, self awareness and critical thinking skills. Then like many humans on Earth they cannot wrap their head around the fact that the right conditions exist and through hundreds of thousands or millions of years of evolution they developed to where they are now. <<cut>>
I can appreciate your reason and logic to a point, but you seem to be making some presumptions that are not necessarily appropriate when speculating about the likes of such a god...
For example, according to a scientist like you, why could a god not create the entire universe for purposes of fostering all manner of possibilities for life forms to be created? Then watching over all of it to see where "the seeds of life" might emerge and propagate? Isn't this similar to the sorts of tests scientists perform all the time? To learn what they can about whatever it is they are wanting to learn?
Of course, there is also the belief that God already knows everything, so why bother with experiments? All depends on what presumptions are made about God in any case. As an atheist, I don't make any such presumptions, but I get a kick out of all the possibilities one can speculate about, and/or the arguments about what is logical or reasonable about any of the speculations.
I believe that all life is eternal, so if I'm right, there will also be wild animals and trees and flowers.
Would this mean all forms of life that cause disease, disabilities and pain exist in heaven too? If wild animals that can be a threat to humans are in heaven, why not all other things living things that can ravage, maul, eat or kill humans?
Of course there is no need to answer these questions. I know how this works all too well to expect answer(s) that aren't entirely predictable when it comes to God and heaven, but sometimes it's hard not to point out what seem some serious inconsistencies with some of these theories.
Would this mean all forms of life that cause disease, disabilities and pain exist in heaven too? If wild animals that can be a threat to humans are in heaven, why not all other things living things that can ravage, maul, eat or kill humans?
Of course there is no need to answer these questions. I know how this works all too well to expect answer(s) that aren't entirely predictable when it comes to God and heaven, but sometimes it's hard not to point out what seem some serious inconsistencies with some of these theories.
Then I won't bother.
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