Same-Sex unions under the law.

[Rotagivan]

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

The attraction is not sin. The action is sin.

Everyone has a predisposition to at least one style of sinful behavior. All have a choice whether or not to act on sinful urges...and at some point, we have all sinned.

I don't believe God considers same sex unions as marriages. Marriage, by design, is one man and one woman. Anything else is not a marriage.

Marriage is a matter of state legislation in relation to couples.

Anything else is not a marriage in any lawful sense.

it does not matter what you believe your idea of G()D 'considers' in relation to marriage as it is a secular state institution, not a religious one.

For example, you can go to a church and have a priest perform symbolic rite in relation to your coupling, but this in itself does not mean you are married.

In the eyes of the state and its laws, you are not married until you do their paperwork.

Do you think G()D cannot consider you married until you have done the states paperwork?

If so - then like you, your G()D is obligated to the state.

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by Rotagivan

Marriage is a matter of state legislation in relation to couples.

Anything else is not a marriage in any lawful sense.

it does not matter what you believe your idea of G()D 'considers' in relation to marriage as it is a secular state institution, not a religious one.

For example, you can go to a church and have a priest perform symbolic rite in relation to your coupling, but this in itself does not mean you are married.

In the eyes of the state and its laws, you are not married until you do their paperwork. We did that.

Do you think G()D cannot consider you married until you have done the states paperwork?

If so - then like you, your G()D is obligated to the state.

God is not subject to the laws in this country. I am... but God isn't. People in the remote areas of Africa are not subject to the laws in America - yet, there is still marriage - even without the paperwork.

God doesn't need paperwork and regulations to see a man and woman as being married.

[cupper3]

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

God is not subject to the laws in this country. I am... but God isn't. People in the remote areas of Africa are not subject to the laws in America - yet, there is still marriage - even without the paperwork.

God doesn't need paperwork and regulations to see a man and woman as being married.

I wonder what the god Quetzalcoatl would say?

[Rotagivan]

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

God is not subject to the laws in this country. I am... but God isn't. People in the remote areas of Africa are not subject to the laws in America - yet, there is still marriage - even without the paperwork.

God doesn't need paperwork and regulations to see a man and woman as being married.

Seems reasonable until you look into it a little more closely... why do Christians get lawfully married if G()D does not need the paperwork? Why do Christians care less if the gov see them as married or not, long as G()D see them as married, what point is there in getting the paperwork done?

Why do you care that same sex couples are lawfully married when marriage under the law is not recognized by G()D anyway?

You say you are subject to the laws, but really, the law isn't going to punish you for not being legally married in the eyes of the law anyhoo. You don't actually need to get lawfully married for G()D to see you are joined right?