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Old 02-12-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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Hidden in a cave: First ever portrait of Jesus found in 1 of 70 ancient books? | Mail Online
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Interesting story on how they were discovered and the owner, too.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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Interesting article. After reading that the guy that owns these things is not properly caring for them, and has some sort of 'personal grandiose attachment' to them, I hope that they will eventually all be taken care of and analyzed. If they really are objects that come from the close decades after the Resurrection, they will be of immense importance.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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Interesting article...The scholars seem to indicate that Christianity was once a sect of Judaism...
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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Interesting article...The scholars seem to indicate that Christianity was once a sect of Judaism...
Yes, a sect of Judaism, but actually, this would have been the way it occurred in history. The old Judaism was the basis of the new Christianity, and those that became believers in Jesus held the "old church" as their foundation. It took the destruction of the Temple for many of the Jewish believers to realize that a new age had come, and the old 'religion' was no longer needed. It seems that religious 'ages' pass over a period of time, and not as abruptly as we might think. Many of the new believers in Jesus would not have come against the old religion in a forceful way, and would have had trouble distinguishing between the old and new, especially since Jesus worshipped God in that very Temple that would be destroyed, even though He knew it was corrupt.

I see the same thing happening in our present day. As in the day that Judaism passed on, present day Christianity is passing on to the Kingdom. Jesus was born of a virgin, yet she was an imperfect human sinner named Mary. He lived for 33 years, and grew up under the guidance of His parents and Judaism, and the defining moment of the new religious age was His Resurrection. In the same way, the new spirit of the Kingdom has been born from the womb of the Church, which is an imperfect example of the true perfection, and this 'remnant' is secretly growing within its parenting and showing signs of the coming Kingdom. The defining moment of this new age will be the Second Coming.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:15 PM
 
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Yes, a sect of Judaism, but actually, this would have been the way it occurred in history. The old Judaism was the basis of the new Christianity, and those that became believers in Jesus held the "old church" as their foundation. It took the destruction of the Temple for many of the Jewish believers to realize that a new age had come, and the old 'religion' was no longer needed. It seems that religious 'ages' pass over a period of time, and not as abruptly as we might think. Many of the new believers in Jesus would not have come against the old religion in a forceful way, and would have had trouble distinguishing between the old and new, especially since Jesus worshipped God in that very Temple that would be destroyed, even though He knew it was corrupt.

I see the same thing happening in our present day. As in the day that Judaism passed on, present day Christianity is passing on to the Kingdom. Jesus was born of a virgin, yet she was an imperfect human sinner named Mary. He lived for 33 years, and grew up under the guidance of His parents and Judaism, and the defining moment of the new religious age was His Resurrection. In the same way, the new spirit of the Kingdom has been born from the womb of the Church, which is an imperfect example of the true perfection, and this 'remnant' is secretly growing within its parenting and showing signs of the coming Kingdom. The defining moment of this new age will be the Second Coming.
The Gentile believers attended Synagogue in order to learn about HaShem and His ways (Laws)...This is recorded in history...Paul seems to be the father of modern Chistianity...Which is in opposition to the Ebionites of Jerusalem. (those at the Jerusalem council?)...The Letters of Barnabas, the former comrade of Paul, seem to be in line with what the Ebionites taught...None of the other non-Pauline letters seem to agree with Pauls letters, look at James...He calls Timothy his spiritual son, he states that he is the father of Timothy, where did Yeshua ever call anyone a son and claim to be their father?...He called them His brothers after the resurrection, they were no longer disciples...
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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Probably false and it is interesting no date given even after analysis, just a broad possibility that it fits about a 300 year window. Oh the face looks like a lion not a man.
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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Heh! It kinda resembles the Shroud of Turin.

Oh, wiki is not copywrited:


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Old 02-12-2014, 04:54 PM
 
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Probably false and it is interesting no date given even after analysis, just a broad possibility that it fits about a 300 year window. Oh the face looks like a lion not a man.
That is what I thought...A lion...
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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