Paul Borrowed Generously From Pagan Writings in His Own Epistles

[arleigh]

It will be Jesus on the thrown , Matthew 7;21,22,23,
Jesus gospel is the commission .
The Holy Spirit is Jesus specifically designated substitute teacher .
No man will stand with you, to justify self govern nor that of men.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by AREQUIPA

It would help if you understood the point that is being made, by others - that Paul, being a citizen of Hellenistic culture would know Greek plays and that is why Jesus apparently quotes Euripedes: because it is out of Paul's Hellenistic head. Or my take - that Luke, being steeped in Graeco roman culture used a quote of Euripedes in writing an event involving Paul and Jesus which Paul does not mention himself.
It doesn't matter how much of Greek literature Paul or indeed Luke enjoyed or rejected, in view of their religious beliefs. It matters whether this indicates that either Paul or Luke might have lifted this rather unusual simile to produce screenplay with a line put into Jesus' mouth.
If you can actually get you head around the argument and not refer to really irrelevant points (let alone a totally unrelated argument - we are NOT saying that either Paul or Luke were 'pagans'), we might have something to discuss.

The central feature of the "spiritual fossil record", Arq . . . is that it IS syncretistic. Each iteration is built upon some aspects of the previous ones. It has been the result of species-wide efforts over generations and eons to understand God. We are ALL looking at and interpreting the same reality . . . each version has its own elements of truth understood as best they were able at the time. Evolution is evolution . . . whether physical or spiritual.

[thrillobyte]

If I said something to the effect, "Jesus is all we need for salvation, but there are some things that the Christ-Consciousness who dwells with the Father...."
wouldn't your eyebrows go up and a red flag suddenly start waving? Wouldn't the first words to pop into your head be "New Age" mysticism?

Suddenly everything I've told you is clouded with doubt. That's all I'm saying.

[TRANSPONDER]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

The central feature of the "spiritual fossil record", Arq . . . is that it IS syncretistic. Each iteration is built upon some aspects of the previous ones. It has been the result of species-wide efforts over generations and eons to understand God. We are ALL looking at and interpreting the same reality . . . each version has its own elements of truth understood as best they were able at the time. Evolution is evolution . . . whether physical or spiritual.

What has that to do with why Paul, or perhaps Luke (writing Acts) used what appears to be a quote from Euripedes when recording what Jesus said? The real question is whether Jesus really could have said it or whether Paul (or Luke) thought he did (to be as polite as possible).

I don't think it is relevant to use it as an excuse to market your pet theory. It is more a relevant excuse for me to market mine

P.s It works just as well to call it evolution of human Myth as evolution of something 'spiritual' -a very overused blunderbuss term, and one that rather attempt to ascribe what humans do to something 'Higher'.