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Old 12-17-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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It can't be----2 Peter 1:20-21.

The Holy Spirit in Sally is the same Holy Spirit in Jane about water baptism---John 3:5.

The Holy Spirit in Preacher Willie is the same Holy Spirit in Preacher George about Christian
attire---1 Peter 3:3.


The Holy Spirit don't divide people up into groups like Methodist, Apostolic, etc.----Ephesians 4:5.

The same Holy Spirit gives every Christian the same biblical revelation on any bible
topic---2 Peter 1:20-21.

It's not a Pentecostal thing to preach on heaven and hell while Catholics and Jehovah Witness
preach on heaven only-----2 Peter 1:20-21.

It's not a Baptist thing to preach on water baptism while Presbyterian don't preach on water
baptism--2 Peter 1:20-21.

It's not a Mormon thing to have another bible edited while Seventh Day Adventist fool with a traditional bible today----2 Peter 1:20-21.

It's not a Puritan thing to preach against jewelry wearing while Lutheran can dress however they want
in the Lord----2 Peter 1:20-21.

It's not an Apostolic thing to preach against women pastoring churches but Methodist have women do whatever in the Lord---2 Peter 1:20-21.

It's not a Quaker thing to preach on repentance to get grace while Amosh preach on grace to be saved
only---2 Peter 1;20-21.

All the body of Christ can preach on water baptism today---John 3:5.

All the body of Christ can preach on Christian attire today---1 Peter 3:3.

All the body of Christ can preach on correcting people with the bible---James 5:20.

All the body of Christ can preach on Christian segregation today----2 Cor. 6:14-17.

All the body of Christ can preach that 100% bible believers are Christians only---John 8:31.

All the body of Christ can preach that repentance brings grace---Romans 6:1.

All the body of Christ can preach on Christian parties today----1 Peter 4:1-4.

All the body of Christ can preach all the bible today---2 Timothy 3:16.

All the body of Christ can have theology unity enough----2 Peter 1:20-21.

All the body of Christ can set goals to see this accomplished----Matthew 5:6.

All the body of Christ can treat a bum like the bible says to----1 or 2 Thess. 3:10.

All the body of Christ can have women silent in the church today---1 Cor. 14:34-35.

All the body of Christ can preach against marrying divorced people today---Romans 7:2-3.

All the body of Christ can preach against marrying widow women under 60 today---1 Tim. 5:9.

All the body of Christ can preach against tongue talkers out of order in the
church today---ALL of 1 Cor. 14.

All the body of Christ can preach against the name and claim anything theology
today---1 Timothy 6 and John 17:9 and Luke 3:14 and Luke 12:15 and Matthew 7:6
and Romans 12:3.

All the body of Christ can preach against people saying Merry Christmas and Happy
Easter today----John 4:24.

All the body of Christ can preach against people having parties at alcohol bars or against
people drinking alcohol period----1 Peter 4:1-4.

All the body of Christ can preach against gambling and having long car notes and long
mortgages on homes and businesses---1 Timothy 6.

All the body of Christ can preach against million dollar homes to own---1 Timothy 6 and
Luke 12:15.

All the body of Christ can preach against church leaders making themselves ordained
ministers of the gospel----Romans 13:1.

All the body of Christ can preach against women pastors in churches---1 Timothy 2:9-14.

All the body of Christ can know if everybody a 100% bible believer or not---1 Thess. 5:12.

All the body of Christ can preach evangelism the bible way---Matthew 7:6.

All the body of Christ can preach limited tolerance to unbelievers--Titus 3:10.

Again the noble goal is to attract 100% bible believers together only----Psalms 133:1.

90% bible believers don't belong here cause they don't fit in----Amos 3:3.

Arrogance not saying that but the Holy Spirit saying that---John 8:32.

No equal yoke with 2 different kinds of people---2 Cor. 6:14-17.

The bible is the teacher all by itself it has no Pentecostal or Lutheran viewpoint--1 John 2:27.

No such thing as a Pentecostal or Lutheran viewpoint----2 Peter 1:20-21.

This only revelation to a child of God that hears his biblical voice---John 10.

The delusional folks are questioning how this makes sense----2 Cor. 4:3 and John 8:44.

They believe another edited bible means more revelation of God---John 8:44 and 1 John 2:27.

The Holy Spirit don't have 50 philosophers about water baptism---2 Peter 1:20-21.

That's cause the Holy Spirit is bible truth---John 6:63 and John 8:32.

Truth can't be a philosophy cause philosophy can be a lie----John 8:32 and John 8:44.

Truth never been a lie cause the devil the only lier---John 8:44 and John 14:6.

Intellectuals figure more Greek and Hebrew books = more revelation of God to
know---1 John 2:27.

No 50 philosophers about Christian attire----2 Peter 1:20-21.


No 50 philosophers about repentance to get grace----2 Peter 1:20-21.


No 50 philosophers about Christian parties----2 Peter 1:20-21.

No 50 philosophers about whether or not people can marry divorced people---2 Peter 1:20-21.

No 50 philosophers about whether or not women can pastor churches---2 Peter 1:20-21.

No 50 philosophers about whether the name and claim anything theology is okay
or not---2 Peter 1:20-21.

No 50 philosophers about whether 100% bible believers are saved only----John 8:31.

No 50 philosophers about whether studying is necessary to be a Christian---Matthew 4:4.

No 50 philosophers about whether segregation is holy or not----2 Cor. 6.

No 50 philosohers about whether it's holy or not to correct people with the bible---James 5:20.

No 50 philosophers about whether all the bible is commandments from God---2 Timothy 3:16.

No 50 philosophers on whether people can ordain themselves a deacon or bishop---Romans 13:1.

No 50 philosophers on whether Merry Christmas is what saints say---John 4:24.

People of truth are not philosophers of the gospel----Colossians 2:8 and John 8:32.

People of truth are not even a 1% philosopher of any of the bible----2 Peter 1:20-21.

The Holy Spirit talks to every child of God the same with all the bible---1 John 2:27 and
2 Peter 1:20-21.

The Holy Spirit divides unbelievers from believers only----2 Cor. 6.

The Holy Spirit doesn't divided any believers with any theology of the bible today---2 Peter 1:20-21.

They same Amen alike to all the bible----John 8:32.

They may have different personalities or struggles but their theology is 100% alike in all
the bible---2 Peter 1:21.

God made that happen on purpose----John 17:21 and Psalms 133:1.

What's meant to happen is a goal to plan for----Matthew 5:6.

No far fetch goal for 100% bible believers to come together---John 17:21 and Matthew 5:6.

It's the nature of a 100% bible believer to look for their kind in the Lord---1 Thess. 5:12 and
John 17:21.

90% bible believers just go for the ride with anybody with theology----John 8:32 and Eph. 4:14.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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It's the nature of a 100% bible believer to look for their kind in the Lord---1 Thess. 5:12 and
John 17:21.

90% bible believers just go for the ride with anybody with theology----John 8:32 and Eph. 4:14.
I assume with "a 100% bible believer" you mean people following 100% Scriptual theology.
Surprise.... such people don't exist. Nobody has 100% understanding.

The 90% usually believes they are part of the "100% correct" group.
So, while the statements in the verses are correct we (mankind) still can't determine what's correct.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:30 PM
 
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No one knows what the Tony Trinity means by his post. They are all basically the same but he never really say's anything of value. I think he is just here to attack Christians. But he never say's anything so how can we tell?
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:54 PM
 
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Biblical literalists are not worth wasting any time or effort on. It's like trying to convince a little child that Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer that they show on TV is not a factual account. It is a mental disability for an adult to believe this.

I think I have a pretty good grasp on the book, being a former Chaplin. There is no way it can be 100%, or even 90%, true. God spoke to people a very long time ago and said things they had a very hard time trying to understand. Then it was passed in an oral tradition for many years before being written down. There are words from god in there, as well as many things put into the book that were based on ignorance, fear, and rage.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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I assume with "a 100% bible believer" you mean people following 100% Scriptual theology.
Surprise.... such people don't exist. Nobody has 100% understanding.

The 90% usually believes they are part of the "100% correct" group.
So, while the statements in the verses are correct we (mankind) still can't determine what's correct.
Proverbs says a just man falls 7 times.

Nobody near perfect ever when their born again people in Christ.

It's entirely a different matter when people mock Romans 6:1 and say their a Christian anyway
when dealing with :

Water baptism---John 3:5
Christian attire----1 Peter 3:3.
Women silent in the church---1 Cor. 14:34-35.
Leaving the alcohol bar/restaurants for Jesus---1 Peter 4:1-4.
Leaving divorced people alone at dating sites---Romans 7:2-3.
Resting on Saturday or the Sabbath---Hebrews 4.
etc., etc.

If anybody had inquity is was King David but the bible says he's a man after God's own heart.

If anybody was against Christianity is was Saul or Apostle Paul but the bible says he's a Christian sold out completely for God.

Christians don't despise the drunk or prostitute or even the bank robber but if somebody is only a 90% bible believer and saying their a Christian anyway then the bible has something to say about
that---Matthew 5:17-20.

Tony didn't say it but the bible said their least in the kingdom of God---Matthew 5:17-20.

Tony didn't say it but the bible said believers are to assemble with believers
only----2 Cor. 6 and Matthew 7:6 and Titus 3:10.

If absolute truth sounds like somebody is a control freak with theology then that person has a problem with God only----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Independent theology is not of the Holy Spirit----2 Peter 1:20-21 and John 8:32.

Biblical revelation is not for the church leaders or gifted people only---1 John 2:27.

When any Christian sows into studying they reap into biblical revelation of God with any
bible topic or verse---2 Timothy 2:15 or James 1:5.

If biblical revelation was for gifted people or church leaders only then Matthew 15:14 would be a
snare for the lambs of the flock---John 8:32 and Ephesians 4:14.

If we're able not to be tossed to and fro with anything taught out there then that means we're spiritually equipped by God to know if we're hearing biblical revelation from God with any bible topic
or verse---John 8:32 and 1 John 2:27 and Matthew 15:14.

There's no short cut in God without studying to get it---John 8:32 and Matthew 4:4.

There's no short cut in God leaving studying up to a preacher to get it---John 8:32 and 1 John 2:27.

The object of the game is to get into a ministry with the same biblical revelation of God in the bible
like you do with any bible topic or verse----Amos 3:3 and Psalms 133:1 and 2 Peter 1;20-21.

The Holy Spirit has each Christian in biblical harmony with each other with any bible topic or
verse---2 Peter 1:20-21 and Amos 3:3 and Psalms 133:1.

The bible calls this unity too----Psalms 133:1.

The bible calls this oneness too----John 17:21.

Alcohol bars have good buddy meetings but that's not the body of Christ----John 8:32 and
1 Peter 4:1-4.

They have sweet Sally and sweet Bob people too but that's not the body of Christ---John 8:32.

The body of Christ has 100% bible believers to stand out from a crowd of people
today---John 8:32 and John 8:31.

More legalism is how Christianity stands out from a good buddy meeting with people
only---John 8:32 and 2 Timothy 3:16.

The object of the game is to convert from the wisdom of man into the wisdom of God to be a total
success in God---John 5:39 and 1 Cor. 8:2 amd Isaiah 64:6 and Jeremiah 10:23.

A lot of the wisdom of God is taught not just assumed with the wisdom of man---John 8:32 and
John 5:39.

Adultery is half known already ; you just have to learn Romans 7:2-3 on adultery.

Murder is half known already ; you just have to learn that if you hate your brother the bible calls you a murderer.

Stealing is half known already ; you just have to learn that if you neglect to pay tithes and offering in a local assembly the bible calls you a thief or robber with God---Malachi 3:8.

Idolatery or paganism is half known already ; you just have to learn that saying Merry Christmas and Happy Easter while you put up decorations today is idolatry or paganism too---John 4:24.

Lieing is half known already ; you just have to learn that a fun lie and a lie in court is the same lie to
God-----Exodus 20 and John 8:32.

Everybody know marriage is honorable already ; you have to learn that marriage is honorable to God with your jewelry and costly array taken off your body---1 Peter 3:3.

Everybody know hatred is wrong ; you just have to learn that all segegration is not racial and hatred evil to God today----2 Cor. 6 and 1 John 2:15 and Matthew 7:6 and Titus 3:10.

Everybody know being a know it all is not the thing to do ; Paul just confirm this being so in 1 Cor. 8:2.

Everybody know ignorance is not the thing to have; Paul just confirm this being so with 2 Tim. 2:15.

Everybody know everybody not a master at everything ; that's why John put 1 John 2:27 in the book so you wouldn't have an amateur excuse for not excelling with the bible enough on your own.

Everybody know God is the only one that is a master at everything to know---John 8:32.

You just have to break out the rut with teaching saying otherwise---1 John 2:27.

While natural knowledge have to be taught by the wisdom of man ; spiritual knowledge have to be taught by God himself only in the bible---1 John 2:27.

Most people think their naturally witty and good enough to go to heaven ; that's why Jeremiah 10:23 is in the bible as well as Isaiah 64:6.

Most grace theologians are Ephesians 2:8 scholars only that's why Romans 6:1 is in the bible.

The wisdom of man is too praised ; that's why Psalms 8:4 is in the bible.

They really believe an archeologist and scientist is smarter then God to explain the knowledge of the
world----1 Cor. 1:25.

No wonder Colossians 2:8 is in the bible---John 8:32.

No wonder the virgin birth of Mary is questioned---Colossians 2:8.

To despise 10% of the bible is to despise the wisdom champion of all time---2 Tim. 3:16 and John 8:32.

Man need proof of 10% of the bible being by God when there's fruits off the trees and crops in the garden to explain the supernatural power of God enough---John 8:32.

It that's not enough reproduction of humans and animals all the time---John 8:32.

It that's not enough the day and night period in heaven all the time---John 8:32.

They really believe a false prophet about the end of time on earth then believe the bible speaking contrary to their prophecy---John 8:32.

Again the noble goal is one to unite 100% bible believers together only---Psalms 133:1.

This is the work of the Holy Spirit only----2 Tim. 3:16 and Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6.

The work of the Holy Spirit is not divisional in theology with 2 believers---2 Peter 1:20-21.

All the bible brings unity in theology for any 2 believers together--2 Peter 1:20-21 and John 17:21.

2 Believers may stubble with unity in theology together for a moment only---Titus 3:10.

The object of the game is not to have a Pentecostal theology about speaking in
tongues---John 8:32.

The object of the game is not to have an Apostolic theology about women being silent
in church---John 8:32.

The object of the game is not to have a Seventh Day Adventist theology about resting on
the Sabbath or Saturday--Hebrews 4.

The object of the game is to find 100% bible believers not vote on church membership of a bible topic advocate group with a few bible topics only----2 Tim. 3:16 and 1 Thess. 5:12 and John 8:31.

This is how you get with the body of Christ assembly of people---Ephesians 4:5 and John 17:21.

Selecting church membership based on whether the people are nice and not money crooks is not
enough---Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6 .

Alcohol bars have nice people that are not money crooks but that's the body of Christ
today---1 Peter 4:1-4 and John 8:32 and 2 Cor. 6 and Amos 3:3.

Selecting church membership based on whether people acknowledge Jesus and blood boast is not enough---John 8:24 and Romans 6:1.

Their theology has to be your theology with John 8:24 and Romans 6:1 or you have an unequal
yoke----2 Cor. 6 and Amos 3:3 and 2 Peter 1:20-21.

Most Jesus acknowledgers limit Jesus to being the Son of God only---John 8:24 and John 8:32.

Most blood boasters believe repentance is in being a blood boaster only---Romans 6:1.

While it's repentance to credit the blood for bailing you out of inperfections only ; it's also
repentance to live out all the bible for today to keep grace---John 8:31.

Continuing in God mean more then being a blood boaster to be saved---John 8:32 and 2 Tim. 3:16.

If not more then we have to throw Matthew 5:17-20 out the bible----John 8:32.

If not more then we have to throw Luke 4:4 out the bible----John 8:32.

If not more then we have to throw 1 Cor. 8:2 out the bible----John 8:32.

If not more then we have to throw John 5:39 out the bible---John 8:32.
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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And once again we see why very few bother to even try and respond to Tony.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Biblical literalists are not worth wasting any time or effort on. It's like trying to convince a little child that Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer that they show on TV is not a factual account. It is a mental disability for an adult to believe this.

I think I have a pretty good grasp on the book, being a former Chaplin. There is no way it can be 100%, or even 90%, true. God spoke to people a very long time ago and said things they had a very hard time trying to understand. Then it was passed in an oral tradition for many years before being written down. There are words from god in there, as well as many things put into the book that were based on ignorance, fear, and rage.
Well said. Unreasoning credulity cannot be reasoned with.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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Biblical literalists are not worth wasting any time or effort on. It's like trying to convince a little child that Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer that they show on TV is not a factual account. It is a mental disability for an adult to believe this.

I think I have a pretty good grasp on the book, being a former Chaplin. There is no way it can be 100%, or even 90%, true. God spoke to people a very long time ago and said things they had a very hard time trying to understand. Then it was passed in an oral tradition for many years before being written down. There are words from god in there, as well as many things put into the book that were based on ignorance, fear, and rage.
And I suppose your the final authority to decided which parts of the bible is right and which is not?
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