11-29-2009, 12:01 AM
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I am moving to Chicago from San Diego with my wife for law school at Loyola, Kent, or DePaul. My wife will be attending graduate school at Loyola. I have a couple of questions:
We have two cars (the California way of life), I am selling one, do I need to take a car to Chicago? How bad is parking and how expensive is it?
I've read threads about neighborhoods in Chicago like Lakeview, Pilsen, Lincoln Park, south loop. Which is the best that is close to Kent or DePaul and Loyola?we want to get the best of the city and transportation with a budget of 1200 for rent.
Thanks for your help!
11-29-2009, 04:05 AM
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How bad parking is varies greatly from neighborhood to neighborhood. In some neighborhoods, people only drive their cars when they simply have no other alternative for fear of not being able to find a parking space within several blocks of their apartment. In neighborhoods like that, off-street parking runs about $200-250/mo. In my neighborhood, or at least my section of it, you could park a school bus on the street if you wanted to. General rule of thumb is, the further you are from downtown and/or the lakefront, the easier parking will be.
Since all of the law schools you're considering are basically right downtown, your options are pretty wide-open since the city's public transportation is very efficient at moving people from the outskirts into downtown and vice-versa. DePaul in particular is the easiest to get to because every line on the CTA except the Yellow Line has a stop within a block of their downtown campus. Kent is pretty esily accessible from the Orange, Brown, Pink Lines, (plus the Purple Line during rush hour) and it's right next to the two major Metra stations. Loyola is the only one that's kind out of the way, but it's still accessible from the Red and Brown lines -- at least the law school is. Which campus would your wife be attending? Because if it's the one way up on the North Side, then it would be best to stick to somewhere along the Red Line.
11-29-2009, 08:33 AM
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Ok areas with bad parking so bad that it makes almost no sense to drive or own a car there: Downtown(loop area), linlcon park, parts of lakeview. If both of your schools are downtown you will not be driving there unless you want to pay for expensive parking. (i.e. Go carless)
Parts of chicago with bad or midly bad parking(It's not nuts to own a car here but it may take some preplanning). Near west side, Hyde park, Bucktown(although this one might fit in the first catagory better).
With that budget you could live almost anywere in Chicago. What kind of neighboorhood would you like?
11-29-2009, 10:29 AM
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With that budget you could live almost anywere in Chicago. What kind of neighboorhood would you like?
We are looking for a centralized neighborhood that offers the best of Chicago on our budget of 1200.00. we want to be close to school, transportation, nightlife and shopping. We are looking for a 1 or 2 bedroom. I've read about Pilsen, wriglyville in Lakeview, and Lincoln park, are these areas good? My wifes greatest concern is safety. We have never been to Chicago, are most areas safe? Is the transportation system safe?
Thanks
11-29-2009, 02:46 PM
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Ok all the neighborhoods on your list make the list. However some people don't feel Pilson is gentrified enough (i.e. this area is for the more urban adventurous yuppie or maybe a Hispanic person). I think the area is nice but has rough edges (sort of like where I currently live).
Downtown Chicago is kind of not a neighborhood in a sense. Or at least not a traditional one, Downtown is very commercial/touristy. Some areas just about die when work closes. The river north area (near downtown) has some night life but the area is still touristy and expensive. The only advantage here is major access to public transit.
Lincoln park and Lakeview would be my favorites on the list. Some nightlight that goes on past work time, Close to the lake and Lincoln Park (The park is bigger than the Neighborhood it goes through). They are tad expensive rent wise but otherwise fun hip places.
Basically the whole public transportation system is geared towards getting people downtown. So long as you live near an el line or a metra line getting downtown should be easy. Also there are other places that are less crowed less expensive and less noisy but still reasonably safe like Uptown (near but not in the same neighboorhood as Loyola).
As for safety, well you can get robbed or raped anywhere no mater the neighborhood. This is not some small town. Just keep aware of your surroundings.
Those areas with the exception of parts of uptown and maybe Pilson are non Ghetto areas . What those areas lack are people doing drive bys, gangs shooting at other gang members out in the open (all of Chicago except downtown has gangs. They are just a lot better behaved here). Those areas usually don’t have people dealing drugs out in the open and the only place in that list that has some prostitution is the boys town area of Lakeview (and even then it’s gay prostitution and there isn’t a ton of it…i.e. the police in the area discourage it outside of bars.) Maybe the park and beach areas around edgwater are a notrous gay pickup are but that is about it.
As for transit the most dangerous time will be walking\waiting for the bus or train. Once on it there is considerably less crime(esp. on Metra). If your wife is going to ride late at night I would suggest she get a partner or cab it. If that is not possible ride in the first car(the driver is in this car). For the most part the CTA is safe during rush hour. It’s off hours and night that are a bit more iffy.
Only two lines run all night. The red line and blue line. The others shutdown or at least do not go to the loop past about 12:30AM(varies a bit per line). Metra likewise slows down then shuts down for the night. Metra is the commuter railroad with limited stops in the city. It is faster to downtown, a nicer ride and more expensive than the el. However the el is much more frequent than Metra(i.e. trains every hour or so post rush).
Like drover, I think the best place to stay would be near the red line depending on which campus your wife goes to.
As for most areas safe, depends on how you define it. The areas on your list are a lot safer than many areas in the city, but don't go wondering around until you get a sense of where the really bad areas are. The north side is about the safest, but there are still problems. The southside is a mixed bag some nice areas and some of the worst ghettos in chicago. The far westside is almost all ghetto past westren.
As for Uptown, Roger's park and Pilson parking wise you probably could keep both your cars here. There is a lot of parking.
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11-29-2009, 08:16 PM
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Would Wriglyville be a good fit for two graduate students and would the commute be OK into Depaul Law School or Kent?
Thanks for your help.
11-29-2009, 08:23 PM
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Pilsen is where the quote-unquote <cool> people live in Chicago these days, and they tend to be ecclectic, artsy, and non-confomist. Lincoln Park and Lakeview are where the backward baseball hat Big Ten basketball-loving crowd lives. The people there tend to be conformist, creative as a brick, and as predictable as snow in January. What you need to do is take an honest assesment of which side of the cultural divide you fall on, and that will tell you where you are likely to be more comfortable. That said, commuting from Pilsen to Loyola's Rogers Park campus is a non-starter under ANY scenario, so if your wife is going to be going there, you can strike Pilsen off the list because you do really need to be on the North Side.
Beyond that, if you want someting less frat-minded than Lincoln Park or Lakeview, there are parts of Edgewater and Uptown that could fit the bill nicely.
As far as the "safety" stuff, if safety is truly your primary concern, then you should probably be reconsidering your move to Chicago. Big cities are places to expand your options, not limit them, and if that is not the way you approach life, you will find little to like about Chicago. Sorry if that sounds abrubt, no disrepsect intended, that's just the way it is. Its not that "safety" is irrelevant here, but it can't be the primary focus of one's life if one is to thrive in an urban environment.
11-29-2009, 08:43 PM
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Pilsen is where the quote-unquote <cool> people live in Chicago these days, and they tend to be ecclectic, artsy, and non-confomist. Lincoln Park and Lakeview are where the backward baseball hat Big Ten basketball-loving crowd lives. The people there tend to be conformist, creative as a brick, and as predictable as snow in January. What you need to do is take an honest assesment of which side of the cultural divide you fall on, and that will tell you where you are likely to be more comfortable. That said, commuting from Pilsen to Loyola's Rogers Park campus is a non-starter under ANY scenario, so if your wife is going to be going there, you can strike Pilsen off the list because you do really need to be on the North Side.
Beyond that, if you want someting less frat-minded than Lincoln Park or Lakeview, there are parts of Edgewater and Uptown that could fit the bill nicely.
As far as the "safety" stuff, if safety is truly your primary concern, then you should probably be reconsidering your move to Chicago. Big cities are places to expand your options, not limit them, and if that is not the way you approach life, you will find little to like about Chicago. Sorry if that sounds abrubt, no disrepsect intended, that's just the way it is. Its not that "safety" is irrelevant here, but it can't be the primary focus of one's life if one is to thrive in an urban environment.
Thanks for the info on the neighborhoods, it helps to know about insider information from someone that has lived or lives in the area. Hence my question about safety in regards to apartment hunting. I would not like to be stuck in a bad part of town because I have no idea where those parts are, and I am quite sure you do not frequent dangerous areas of Chicago to expand your options on life in those areas you need to be an insider, someone who knows the city and cultural norms, I've lived in those areas in L.A., Las Vegas, Mexico City, and Tijuana. Safety would not discourage me from living in one of the most vibrant and diverse cities in the U.S., but I certainly need to familiarize myself with my surroundings that unfortunatlly have to include issues of safety for me and my wife who have never even visited Chicago, this will help me thrive in the urban environment of the wonderful Windy City.
11-29-2009, 09:05 PM
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Would Wriglyville be a good fit for two graduate students and would the commute be OK into Depaul Law School or Kent?...
Lake View would be fine yes.
11-29-2009, 09:08 PM
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About 20 mins or so. From Belmont to Jackson for depaul on the red line. Addison is actually the closest station to Wrigley park but Belmont has the Purple line during rush hour(an express route that can be faster sometimes depending on where you are coming from and assuming they fixed the track issues by now). The area is also known as Lake view.
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Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)