Great Lakes water....to southwest?? (Chicago, Phoenix: houses, buy, tornadoes)

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by BIG CATS

HA! Like you guys OWN the rain and lakes that flow into your area.

We do own the rights to the water, thanks

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by lepoisson

If you decide to inhabit a place that gets virtually no rain and is over 100 degrees regularly in the summer, well, that should be your job to find water.

We found water. We have water. We used ancient irrigation (Anasazi Indians) techniques to pipe water from the Colorado. Its called the CAP, look it up. Regardless, we have built underground reservoirs as well, that gets water diverted and stored in case of problems. Technically, in the case of a massive drought, we are better off than most areas of the nation simply because we are already prepared.


I remember living in Chicago and we had a 5 week drought one summer, and many suburbs were already imposing bans on watering lawns and washing cars at home. What will happen if you guys have a massive, prolonged drought? Here in AZ we are in the midst of a 700 year drought, and are using LESS water than we did in the 1950's, despite having 10 times the population. We do our part to conserve and share. What are you guys doing?

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

We do own the rights to the water, thanks

The govt does. And if crap hits the fan, it will be diverted if need be. It most likely will never come to that, but if it does, there will be nothing you can do to stop it. So you can either share, or expect a MASSIVE influx of people from all over the nation relocating there to have water. I'm talking 10s of millions of people. Take your pick.

[Sunbiz1]

Originally Posted by BIG CATS

HA! Like you guys OWN the rain and lakes that flow into your area.

Cut a deal with the Mexican gov, for about 25 miles of pipeline through their land to the Gulf of California.
Build one of these:
https://www.tampabaywater.org/tampa-...lination-plant

Problem solved.

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by damba

You are delusional.

Yes, not only should the west ruin their own groundwater options/not ration enough, but they should start wrecking another habitat(?)

Places like PHX are not "ruining" the West. We have the most strict water conservation efforts in the nation, far and away. Despite our population being over 5 million, we are using LESS water than in the 1950's. Most places flat out ban grass and non-native flora. Golf courses and car washes use recycled water. Many places collect rain and use it for crops and plants. We haven't "wrecked" anything, but in fact respect it immensely and do all we can to ensure we have plenty.

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by Sunbiz1

Cut a deal with the Mexican gov, for about 25 miles of pipeline through their land to the Gulf of California.
Build one of these:
https://www.tampabaywater.org/tampa-...lination-plant

Problem solved.

Here in PHX we have absolutely no need to do that. We take care of our own.


https://www.srpwater.com/

[damba]

Originally Posted by BIG CATS

We found water. We have water. We used ancient irrigation (Anasazi Indians) techniques to pipe water from the Colorado. Its called the CAP, look it up. Regardless, we have built underground reservoirs as well, that gets water diverted and stored in case of problems. Technically, in the case of a massive drought, we are better off than most areas of the nation simply because we are already prepared.

There are limits to CAP and to the maximum effectiveness of other methods, especially based on projected population growth and less water coming from the Rockies.

I remember living in Chicago and we had a 5 week drought one summer, and many suburbs were already imposing bans on watering lawns and washing cars at home. What will happen if you guys have a massive, prolonged drought? Here in AZ we are in the midst of a 700 year drought, and are using LESS water than we did in the 1950's, despite having 10 times the population. We do our part to conserve and share. What are you guys doing?

Yes, it is done here sometimes as a proactive measure, not because our water sources are close to being bone dry. Arguably, a smarter way than some western locales choice to ban watering of lawns by homeowners but fully permit golf courses to water with little restrictions.

Btw, my comments were not pointed specifically at PHX but more broadly toward the west in general where population growth is critically affecting the environment (Hi, Cali).

[coldwine]

Let them drink Perrier.

[coldwine]

Alternatively, let the entire southwest die.

That statement conveys a false sense of animosity. I am quite calm and comfortable with the idea of the western half of the United States burning to death, dying of thirst, or being lost to any of the volcanoes or fault lines that render an already uninhabitable wasteland that much more dangerous.

Phoenix, for example, simply should not exist. Strict water conservation efforts in Phoenix are like matches in an avalanche.

Finally, it does not matter whether or not the wasteland states want access to the Great Lakes. It would literally be cheaper to build a bike path to Venus. Moving water is and always has been humanity's most expensive endeavor for the simple reason that we cannot beat physics.

Either which way, wildfires will have reclaimed the desert from the American Southwest (and much of the west coast) long before it comes to this.

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by coldwine

Let them drink Perrier.

The older version was "let them eat cake"...