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Old 02-24-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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So, are you in favor of the CPD having people disappear into a secret detention facility?

The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site' | US news | The Guardian
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:58 AM
 
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Sounds like the Guardian has been watching the NBC show "Chicago PD"
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:08 AM
 
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I saw this on the national news this morning. It sounds far-fetched. But we are talking about the CPD here, and unfortunately their past reputation allows us all to wonder what they are capable of. But the Guardian is also a little off-the-wall sometimes, so the skepticism flows in both directions here.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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If you know any decent criminal defense attorneys that work in Chicago for the kind of people that CPD believes might have "information pertaining to past or future criminal activity" they can tell you that such procedures have ALWAYS been part of the "intelligence operations" of the department.

This is NOT about "torture" it is about keeping gang-bangers and wannabe 'revolutionaries' detained as LEGALLY ALLOWED for up to 48 hours.

If you think about it, this is a legitimate way to stay "ahead of the curve" because while folks are in detention the police can continue to investigate any supposed to ties to larger criminal activity. Many people are released from detention without charges when investigation shows that they were not in fact involved in any more serious organized crime.
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Old 02-27-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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If you know any decent criminal defense attorneys that work in Chicago for the kind of people that CPD believes might have "information pertaining to past or future criminal activity" they can tell you that such procedures have ALWAYS been part of the "intelligence operations" of the department.

This is NOT about "torture" it is about keeping gang-bangers and wannabe 'revolutionaries' detained as LEGALLY ALLOWED for up to 48 hours.

If you think about it, this is a legitimate way to stay "ahead of the curve" because while folks are in detention the police can continue to investigate any supposed to ties to larger criminal activity. Many people are released from detention without charges when investigation shows that they were not in fact involved in any more serious organized crime.
Okay...so why does this has to happen in a separate facility and on the down low? If it was on the up and up it would not be a secret.
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Old 02-28-2015, 01:55 AM
 
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Okay...so why does this has to happen in a separate facility and on the down low? If it was on the up and up it would not be a secret.
If somebody called central booking and said "I am Bob Smith's lawyer, I want to speak with him." BUT THEY are not really a lawyer at all, just some thug checking up Bob Smith who might be ratting them out THAT would not be effective "intelligence gathering" it would be a way to Bob Smith killed if he was released...

The bad guys in Chicago are remarkably clever that way. The cops have work a little harder to stay ahead of the bad guys...
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:50 PM
 
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You guys do know this is the facility where the public who have been arrested or victims go to pick up their inventoried property, right?? Just goes to show how easily we believe something just because its on the news.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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Not even from anything close to a reputable news source too. When you even have anti-police politicians and attorneys calling this BS, you know this is a real fantasy piece.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:29 AM
 
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You guys do know this is the facility where the public who have been arrested or victims go to pick up their inventoried property, right?? Just goes to show how easily we believe something just because its on the news.
You do know that the property storage facility is on this site, along with a lot of other things. Just goes to show how some people want to live in a fantasy land where nothing bad ever happens and there are no hard realities to confront.
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Old 03-01-2015, 09:21 PM
 
Location: St. Paul, MN
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The Guardian is an exceptionally trustworthy news source. I think it won a Pulitzer prize, probably many others. It is highly regarded and as such is becoming more and more popular.

Keep in mind that the mainstream media are all owned by the same companies.

I absolutely believe what the Guardian has to say about it. This place is a major problem. And you have many detainees recounting details that are remarkably similar...
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