Great quote from the fast food workers strike in Chicago (preschool, income)

[lenniel]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Yep. The Ford approach was to drive up wages, to create more middle class people who could afford his product. The Wal-Mart approach is to help drive down wages, to create more poor people, but sell products so cheaply that even poor people can afford them. The latter approach has clearly won. It might be sustainable if all people needed for a decent life was plastic crap from China. Unfortunately there are things like health care and education that can't be purchased from Wal-Mart, and are therefore out of the reach of low-wage workers.

Not getting an education is a poor excuse. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't everyone, regardless of background, income, etc qualify for some type of student loan program for college?

Maybe our primary school teachers need to do a better job of stressing the need for continuing education so one's options are limited to working at McDs or stocking a grocery shelf.

[lenniel]

Originally Posted by reneeh63

I think people need to be responsible for themselves...and this young woman is holding down a full-time job so I think she qualifies. I also think the pursuit of happiness includes having children - a full-time job, even that at minimum wage should allow someone to raise one child (no, I'm not saying 2 or 4 or 6!). College-educated people making 50k a year are not the only people who should be allowed to reproduce.

I disagree. I don't think having a child is a right. Kids are incredibly expensive, and a single woman, working at a min wage job, probably isn't in the financial position to be having a child. Especially one who probably doesn't have an education or a husband to help raise that child.
That may seem harsh, but maybe that's what some of these people need, a reality check.

[ChicagoMeO]

Yeah if that woman thinks she is entitled to raise a kid, fine let her do it.. but when she starts asking for welfare to help raise that child, that proves she cannot raise the child with her own income.

I just blew that bleeding heart liberal idea right out of the water.

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by lenniel

Maybe our primary school teachers need to do a better job of stressing the need for continuing education so one's options are limited to working at McDs or stocking a grocery shelf.

Those jobs need doing and those who do them deserve a decent wage. Tell me, if everyone were educated would these jobs in question disappear? No, they'd still be around. And tell me, if everyone were educated would that mean there would then be a good paying job for everyone? No, it would mean educated people would be working at McDs and stocking grocery shelves.

Your pull yourself up theory ignores the fact there are only so many good jobs to go around and people compete for them. Evidently you think those unable to win that competition should be condemned to squalor. St. Francis you ain't.

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by lenniel

I'm probably in the 1% (or at least used to be when we were dual income) and I think everyone should aspire to be in the 1%. Well, maybe you don't have to be in the 1% to make yourself happy but you don't want to be in the bottom and constantly struggling either.

LOFL. You aren't even close to being in the 1%, or you'd have a team of staff doing your postings for you.

This is what is so comical about people with your attitude, you've fallen for the robber baron mythos, hook, line and sinker.

Seriously, take 6 minutes of your life and learn the numbers:


Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube

[Prost]

Re: the top 1%.

What it takes to get into the top 1% - Nov. 20, 2012

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by lenniel

I'm probably in the 1% (or at least used to be when we were dual income) and I think everyone should aspire to be in the 1%. Well, maybe you don't have to be in the 1% to make yourself happy but you don't want to be in the bottom and constantly struggling either.

Well, of course you are..DUBIOUS.

Didn't you know that everyone is in the 1% on the Internet?

Go genuflect before your Robber Baron statues.

[baileyvpotter]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

Those jobs need doing and those who do them deserve a decent wage. Tell me, if everyone were educated would these jobs in question disappear? No, they'd still be around. And tell me, if everyone were educated would that mean there would then be a good paying job for everyone? No, it would mean educated people would be working at McDs and stocking grocery shelves.

Your pull yourself up theory ignores the fact there are only so many good jobs to go around and people compete for them. Evidently you think those unable to win that competition should be condemned to squalor. St. Francis you ain't.

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

LOFL. You aren't even close to being in the 1%, or you'd have a team of staff doing your postings for you.
This is what is so comical about people with your attitude, you've fallen for the robber baron mythos, hook, line and sinker.
Seriously, take 6 minutes of your life and learn the numbers:


Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube

Originally Posted by Prost

Re: the top 1%.

What it takes to get into the top 1% - Nov. 20, 2012

[ChiNaan]

nm

[glass_of_merlot]

Originally Posted by lenniel

This pretty much sums it up......

“If not $15, then something. I mean give us something. I work 36 hours a week and barely make enough to pay my rent, gas bill, light bill. It gets to the point where I barely have enough for lunch sometimes,” said Angel Richardson, 21, who works at McDonald’s. “I’m five months pregnant, what am I going to do in four months? I hope something changes.”

400 area retail, fast-food workers demand $15-an-hour minimum wage - Chicago Sun-Times

Umm...how about not getting pregnant when you're 21 and can't afford to have a baby? The reason you're 21 and prego is the same reason you're working at McDonald's.

Blaming everyone else for her situation