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Old 06-03-2013, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Not paying for illegitimate children would be a start.


Yes, let's make children who are in poverty even more poor so they'll be even more likely to join gangs. Brilliant.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:09 AM
 
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Or put them in orphanages away from the violence and lunatic families/neighbors
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Uptown
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Yes, let's make children who are in poverty even more poor so they'll be even more likely to join gangs. Brilliant.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:28 AM
 
Location: River North, Chicago, Illinois
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Or put them in orphanages away from the violence and lunatic families/neighbors
There are reasons we no longer have orphanages in the West for the most part, and while the primary reason may be that we have fewer orphaned kids these days it's also partly due to the fact that kids don't turn out well in them.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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Keeping them in these hostile environments can't be much better. At least they would have a chance in orphanages, provided it had the right leadership and methodologies. The status quo of hoping for the best, that a 3-year-old won't be affected/traumatized by living in these loud, angry, violent, ignorant warzones, just isn't working. Endlessly throwing money at their mothers isn't doing it either. Gotta look at all options.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Or put them in orphanages away from the violence and lunatic families/neighbors
Good idea. I'm sure everyone on the right will gladly accept the massive tax increases that it would take to run these orphanages at a level that would provide kids with the type of care that might keep them out of gangs, right?

No? Oh, then maybe that was a horrible idea.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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Good idea. I'm sure everyone on the right will gladly accept the massive tax increases that it would take to run these orphanages at a level that would provide kids with the type of care that might keep them out of gangs, right?

No? Oh, then maybe that was a horrible idea.
Isn't that what happens when they build more jails?
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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Between the costs of single mom welfare programs, jails, prisons, economic devastation to communities, and disinvestments. how can you imply these orphanages would be more costly overall. It seems we are blowing billions for nothing as it is; reallocation of funds seems like a no-brainer.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:51 AM
 
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A surefire solution: teach all of our young women to not romance with moron thugs. Then see how many young men choose that lifestyle.
That would not work as most present-day young thug types are bisexual.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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That would not work as most present-day young thug types are bisexual.
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