Where do you see Chicago in 2030? (Worth, Washington: income, to live, price)

[chet everett]

Entering or being born?

What is the birth vs death balance point?

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by chet everett

Entering or being born?

What is the birth vs death balance point?

You could probably look that up, if you care. I don't, or I would have. Population growth is population growth. Until we become a state that is bleeding population heavily, I'm not worried about it. I'd rather have slow population growth than fast, because I prefer Chicago to Vegas, Phoenix, and Charlotte.

[chet everett]

I routinely warn folks that towns that experience a "boom" are also prone to the rubberband "bust"...

Sadly, when it comes too many trends in this state the path is less like a balloon than waste in a commode -- there are occasional back-ups and smelly overflows but most common is the "swirl before hitting the drain"...

[Vlajos]

I don't know about all the doom and gloom. Chicago metro economic growth is pretty much on average with the US.

News Release: GDP by Metropolitan Area, Advance 2011, and Revised 2001–2010

Dark and light blue areas are the US average and better.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by chet everett

Sadly, when it comes too many trends in this state the path is less like a balloon than waste in a commode -- there are occasional back-ups and smelly overflows but most common is the "swirl before hitting the drain"...

Yet here we are, with a pretty great city.

Originally Posted by Vlajos

I don't know about all the doom and gloom. Chicago metro economic growth is pretty much on average with the US.

News Release: GDP by Metropolitan Area, Advance 2011, and Revised 2001–2010

Dark and light blue areas are the US average and better.

Careful throwing around facts here. You might hurt someone!

[chet everett]

Interestng map. It shows quite a bit of "dark blue" in places like western PA and central IA -- wonder what that could be? Big swaths of CT are dark blue as well, as is the Detroit area -- I guess a whole lot depends on what one's baseline is...
The Detroit-Warren-Livonia region blew us away with a 3.5% uptick compared to the Chicago-Joliet-Naperville region's paltry 1.4%, any one gonna hop a bus to Motor City? As a whole the Great Lakes region lagged the whole US with a 1.4% growth in GDP number vs 1.5% nationally... http://goo.gl/DCmNa

Should one care to compare even the recent contributions of our state to the nation's GDP we have already been overtaken by Florida -- List of U.S. states by GDP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If one tries to determine the fastest growing states and wishes to exclude the volatile (even explosive...) energy sector the top title goes to Oregon -- States with the fastest growing economies - Business on NBCNews.com I often point out to younger people that the economic vitality of Portland and surrounding areas is highly caffeinated...

[Vlajos]

God, Florida only has 6 million more people than Illinois, I would hope the economy is larger there.

I don't know how 1.4% is paltry when the country grew 1.5%.

[citydweller]

Here is an interesting map which shows migration patterns within the US. It might be of some interest here.

[chet everett]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

God, Florida only has 6 million more people than Illinois, I would hope the economy is larger there.

I don't know how 1.4% is paltry when the country grew 1.5%.

Is 3.5% growth of Michigan double the 1.4% of Illinois? Oh, right it 2.5x . Yeah who gets hurt when you throw around facts

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by chet everett

Is 3.5% growth of Michigan double the 1.4% of Illinois? Oh, right it 2.5x . Yeah who gets hurt when you throw around facts

Average for the nation was 1.5% vs. 1.4% in Chicago metro. Some metros are higher, some are lower.

Do you understand averages?

Too bad there is no middle finger icon.