Are we living in Seattle? (Chicago, Hampshire: relocation, location, winter)

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Feel free to google "mistake by the lake" and notice what fills the first several pages of results.

Oh, get a sense of humor. I'm well aware that it's a derogatory Cleveland nickname.

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by grapico

29 Kansas City, MO-KS MSA 2,052,676 2,035,334 +0.85% Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City, MO-KS CSA
28 Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH MSA 2,068,283 2,077,240 −0.43% Cleveland-Akron-Elyria, OH CSA
27 Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN MSA 2,138,038 2,130,151 +0.37% Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN CSA
26 Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA 2,171,360 2,134,411 +1.73% Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach, FL CSA
25 Sacramento–Arden-Arcade–Roseville, CA MSA 2,176,235 2,149,127 +1.26% Sacramento–Arden-Arcade–Yuba City, CA-NV CSA
24 San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX MSA 2,194,927 2,142,508 +2.45%
23 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA MSA 2,262,605 2,226,009 +1.64%
22 Pittsburgh, PA MSA 2,359,746 2,356,285 +0.15% Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA CSA
21 Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO MSA 2,599,504 2,543,482 +2.20% Denver-Aurora-Boulder, CO CSA
20 Baltimore-Towson, MD MSA 2,729,110 2,710,489 +0.69% Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA
19 St. Louis, MO-IL MSA 2,817,355 2,812,896 +0.16% St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL CSA
18 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA 2,824,724 2,783,243 +1.49%
17 San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA 3,140,069 3,095,313 +1.45%
16 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI MSA 3,318,486 3,279,833 +1.18% Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI CSA
15 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MSA 3,500,026 3,439,809 +1.75% Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA CSA
14 Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale, AZ MSA 4,263,236 4,192,887 +1.68%
13 Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI MSA 4,285,832 4,296,250 −0.24% Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI CSA
12 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 4,304,997 4,224,851 +1.90% Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA
11 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA 4,391,037 4,335,391 +1.28% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
10 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH MSA 4,591,112 4,552,402 +0.85% Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA
9 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA 5,359,205 5,268,860 +1.71% Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL CSA
8 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA 5,670,125 5,564,635 +1.90%
7 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA 5,703,948 5,582,170 +2.18% Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA
6 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA 5,992,414 5,965,343 +0.45% Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA
5 Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA 6,086,538 5,946,800 +2.35% Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX CSA
4 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA 6,526,548 6,371,773 +2.43% Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CSA
3 Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI MSA 9,504,753 9,461,105 +0.46% Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 12,944,801 12,828,837 +0.90% Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA
1 New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA MSA 19,015,900 18,897,109 +0.63% New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA

There is only one city on that list that has a worse winter than Chicago, and that's Minneapolis.

It all boils down to how you define "worse". In terms of cold/wind chill, you're absolutely correct. In terms of snow and/or overcast days, a number of cities on that list have it "worse" than Chicago.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by andrew61

Oh, get a sense of humor.

You really meant to say, "lose your sense of humor," right? Because that's what I'd have to do in order to think that was funny.

I'd have probably recognized it as an attempt at humor if not for the completely irrational things being said in all seriousness on this thread. Confusing the meaning of "Mistake By The Lake" wouldn't even make the top 10.

[JBVirtuoso]

This is why I love Chicago weather. It gives everyone something to talk about.

[Chicago76]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

So, when you compare Chicago to a bunch of other dreary overcast Great Lake area cities, it looks normal? This isn't exactly news. Try comparing it to the rest of the country or rest of the world. That's what most people are talking about when they talk about Chicago weather.

Jesus. Look at it again. Compared to the rest of the North Central US, it is actually quite sunny, not normal. Same with Portland, Seattle, Nashville, Louisville too. It actually has more clear days than Salt Lake City too.

Chicago is within a half standard deviation of "average"...in other words, pretty normal for the nation at large...tall the way a 5-11 guy is tall...pick your anology. If you want to tell me that it isn't as sunny as Denver or Miami or Phoenix or Dallas in the winter...well, thanks for the revelation pal. Of all the things to complain about regarding Chicago winters (temperature, wind chill, duration of the cold seaso, etc.) dreariness isn't really one of them. if you don't like it, the only place where you are going to see an appreciable difference (key word: appreciable) is in the Sun Belt.

[grapico]

Originally Posted by andrew61

It all boils down to how you define "worse". In terms of cold/wind chill, you're absolutely correct. In terms of snow and/or overcast days, a number of cities on that list have it "worse" than Chicago.

Yes that is what I was going by, cold and windchill, just to be specific. I would assume that most people would consider that the worse, certainly not all, but that is what I usually remember the most, the bone chilling days. I don't think Chicago gets a BAD amount of snow like Rochester, or excessively grey days like Seattle, nor have I lived in either of those other environments, but I think I could put up with a lot of snow, and I'd take a milder grey day over a freezing one... but if it went on forever, not sure how I would react, I don't plan on finding out! haha

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by Chicago76

Jesus.

You said it, man!

[Heyooooo]

Originally Posted by Chicago76

Jesus. Look at it again. Compared to the rest of the North Central US, it is actually quite sunny, not normal. Same with Portland, Seattle, Nashville, Louisville too. It actually has more clear days than Salt Lake City too.

Chicago is within a half standard deviation of "average"...in other words, pretty normal for the nation at large...tall the way a 5-11 guy is tall...pick your anology. If you want to tell me that it isn't as sunny as Denver or Miami or Phoenix or Dallas in the winter...well, thanks for the revelation pal. Of all the things to complain about regarding Chicago winters (temperature, wind chill, duration of the cold seaso, etc.) dreariness isn't really one of them. if you don't like it, the only place where you are going to see an appreciable difference (key word: appreciable) is in the Sun Belt.

Thank you. I think the brain surgery comment is worth re-mentioning.

But our opinions dont matter. A region of 150 million, and a Chicago winter would be deemed average to us, but the weighted opinion only matters to those who dont like them.... according to ChiNaan that is.

[Heyooooo]

Also, thank you for quoting the message that had ChiNaan initially mention "the rest of the world", considering he told me I couldnt use Montreal, Toronto, London, Paris or Tokyo.

Thats what I was responding to.

[Heyooooo]

Originally Posted by grapico

Yes that is what I was going by, cold and windchill, just to be specific. I would assume that most people would consider that the worse, certainly not all, but that is what I usually remember the most, the bone chilling days. I don't think Chicago gets a BAD amount of snow like Rochester, or excessively grey days like Seattle, nor have I lived in either of those other environments, but I think I could put up with a lot of snow, and I'd take a milder grey day over a freezing one... but if it went on forever, not sure how I would react, I don't plan on finding out! haha

See, I personally hate the days of endless snowfall (lake effect especially). 100+ inches of snow annually gets old pretty quickly.

Give me the bone-chilling days, because at least the sun is out most of the time for them.

IMO, Chicago winters are like an urban myth. People think theyre like surviving an apocalypse, and I guess im just speaking for most others in the cold North in saying that Chicago winters arent as bad as theyre made out to be. The entire perception of it being "the worst" is what im after here, and yes, people do say it and have said on here.