03-08-2017, 11:06 AM
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That and nearby Wheaton addresses have similar travel times to I-88 as addresses across the tracks in central Lombard, Villa Park, Naperville, Downers Grove, etc.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.7...!4m1!3e0?hl=en
And Wheaton's stretch of I-88 is <5 mins from portions of I-88 in Downers, Lombard, etc, even during morning/evening rush.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.8...!4m1!3e0?hl=en
There's no validity to the suggestion that Wheaton (even north Wheaton) is somehow more removed from highways than comparably positioned addresses in other suburbs, and real world travel times on the highway are only 5-12 mins longer than from other desirable suburbs to the east (comparably positioned addresses in Downers, Hinsdale, Elmhurst, etc).
And FWIW, it never takes me more than 10 mins to get to I-88.
Sorry, but I pulled a random home in north Wheaton and just this morning at 7am it showed 15 minutes to access I-88. Not bad, but also not "easily accessible." I consider <5 minutes "easy" access and parts of
south Wheaton certainly fit this bill. Also, I would never suggest someone live in Downers, Hinsdale, Elmhurst, and certainly not Wheaton if they need to drive to the loop every day for work. Towns like LaGrange or Park Ridge are about as far removed as I'd want to be if I had to drive into the loop on a daily basis for a typical work shift at 7-9 am to 4-6 pm. Ideally, towns like Evanston and Oak Park would be even better.
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03-08-2017, 01:40 PM
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Sorry, but I pulled a random home in north Wheaton and just this morning at 7am it showed 15 minutes to access I-88. Not bad, but also not "easily accessible." I consider <5 minutes "easy" access and parts of south Wheaton certainly fit this bill. Also, I would never suggest someone live in Downers, Hinsdale, Elmhurst, and certainly not Wheaton if they need to drive to the loop every day for work. Towns like LaGrange or Park Ridge are about as far removed as I'd want to be if I had to drive into the loop on a daily basis for a typical work shift at 7-9 am to 4-6 pm. Ideally, towns like Evanston and Oak Park would be even better.
I didn't say 88 was easily accessible from that address. I said accessibility from that address is the same as from comparably positioned addresses in Downers, et al. Wheaton is certainly not "less accessible" than any of the other towns in question.
I wouldn't drive from any town I could ride Metra from, and I wouldn't live in any town without Metra.
03-08-2017, 01:57 PM
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One problem is the freight train problem that cuts through downtown Wheaton. If you have to get to the other side and get caught by a train there could be quite a wait.
03-08-2017, 02:48 PM
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One problem is the freight train problem that cuts through downtown Wheaton. If you have to get to the other side and get caught by a train there could be quite a wait.
Again, reiterating my point from above, this is not specific to Wheaton. Same thing happens in Geneva, Downers, Hinsdale or anywhere else. Nearly all suburban downtowns in Chicagoland are bisected by tracks...
03-08-2017, 03:00 PM
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Again, reiterating my point from above, this is not specific to Wheaton. Same thing happens in Geneva, Downers, Hinsdale or anywhere else. Nearly all suburban downtowns in Chicagoland are bisected by tracks...
No, it is not a problem specific to Wheaton, but some Metra lines do not seem to have freight train usage. I have not seen a freight train on the UP-NW line.
03-08-2017, 04:10 PM
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I didn't say 88 was easily accessible from that address. I said accessibility from that address is the same as from comparably positioned addresses in Downers, et al. Wheaton is certainly not "less accessible" than any of the other towns in question.
But even that's not true. Would you agree that the most desirable part of Wheaton is north of the tracks? This also happens to be the location that is least accessible to I-88 particularly if you are required to cross the tracks or jump on to I-355 first. The most desirable part of Downers Grove is north of the tracks and one would not be required to cross the tracks to access I-88. Similar story for Elmhurst. The most desirable part of Elmhurst is south of the tracks and I-88 is located south of Elmhurst. For Hinsdale, it's basically split. About half the town would cross the tracks (which really isn't an issue any longer - thank you Oak Street bridge overpass
) while the other half wouldn't.
Lastly, not every one can rely on Metra for their work commute. The flexibility, and for many requirement, to have to drive to their office is a deterrent for many considering further west towns like Wheaton and Naperville. This doesn't seem to be a concern for OP, though for many it is.
03-08-2017, 04:13 PM
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One problem is the freight train problem that cuts through downtown Wheaton. If you have to get to the other side and get caught by a train there could be quite a wait.
This is a good point. Freight trains are rather uncommon along BNSF during weekdays day time. More common, though still infrequent, on weekends which I imagine is coordinated with metra.
03-08-2017, 05:51 PM
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Again, reiterating my point from above, this is not specific to Wheaton. Same thing happens in Geneva, Downers, Hinsdale or anywhere else. Nearly all suburban downtowns in Chicagoland are bisected by tracks...
In Downers, at BNSF stop I use, the tracks are separated from the roadway. You drive underneath them. Therefore, it's not a problem here. The downtown, yes, but the next stop is not.
03-08-2017, 07:23 PM
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Besides, north downers grove is a lot more accessible to major expressways than north Wheaton. You cant compare the two...
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There are horrible freight trains in Wheaton. Really long ones. This is in addition to the commuter trains which can be frequent at times but not bad. I would disagree that the most desirable part of Wheaton is north of the tracks. Some of the most expensive, but modern homes in Wheaton are in the south area. The core of Wheaton, which is mostly north of the tracks is older gracious historic homes with some teardowns that have been built recently. South Wheaton is subdivisions of various kinds including luxury homes. Then the farther north you go in Wheaton, again you have some modern luxury homes. Wheaton does a very good job of having all of these knit together very well into a nice community that does not look like sprawl. There are also small "pocket" subdivisions of just a few homes that have been recently built. South Wheaton has better access to I 88, and stores and shopping, its also very easy to get to Naperville from there as well as shoot down Butterfield to the Oak Brook area.
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People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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